Riots in Little India

This is unheard of and never possible in our mind. Hope the gov do some soul searching and re-evaluate their pro-rich/wealth policies.

Base on reports so far, and the response from Bangladesh High Comm, the riot likely involved mainly from Bangladesh workers here. It is nothing to do a rich/wealth policies or even FT policies. It is more on the reliance on foreign labour in Singapore property sector, including meeting the HDB demands.

The change of policy to reduce the reliance is a proactive measure to avoid similar riot in Singapore, IMO

you guys knows how the Indians across roads in Little India?? They think they are still in India.
It is a matter of time before an accident happened.

(09-12-2013, 10:26 AM)CityFarmer Wrote: Base on reports so far, and the response from Bangladesh High Comm, the riot likely involved mainly from Bangladesh workers here. It is nothing to do a rich/wealth policies or even FT policies. It is more on the reliance on foreign labour in Singapore property sector, including meeting the HDB demands.

The chance of policy to reduce the reliance is a proactive measure to avoid similar riot in Singapore, IMO

Ya, it is not about a rich/wealth policy coz the rich foreigners knock down Singaporeans, not the other way round.

It is not an isolated case when something of such severity happens. Only the paranoid survives. This is a low probability high consequence event.

There are many issues at hand here:

Firstly as per my my post in another thread, there is a cultural issue.
http://www.valuebuddies.com/thread-4212-...l#pid68620
Indeed OPMI is right that they think they are still in India. Similarly the Chinese think they are in China. There is a HUGE cultural divide between how Singaporeans do things and them. And they problem is that slowly but surely our culture is actually being eroded.

2ndly it is a result of rich/wealth policy. Here we see a manifestation of low level labor angry at the affluence of Singapore. Flip it over and we can also see how Singaporeans are angry with the uber rich. Instead of being the switzerland of the east by 2020, we are becoming the UAE by 2020. OTOH while this event looks impactful VISUALLY, white collar crimes, hot money, rich man's excesses would have even more devastating impact on the economy and populace as a whole if not managed properly.

3rdly the fanatical focus on the PnL of Singapore Inc has these side effects as warned many times. This is FORESEEABLE. So does the 2 casinos. Instead of using foreign labour to suppress low end labor price and cap CPI, end of day it might just be the Austalian model of increasing the price of these labour that no one wants to do, may be more effective int the long run. The irony of course is that CPI was not curbed because asset inflation killed it anyway.

I seriously hope the govt realises that these are social costs that are much too high for us to pay. The people are not always right, but in this case the people's discontent with excessive foreigners is correct.

All is pent up resentment and now it all comes out with a bang, maybe 1 or 2 we can say isolated but 400 people turned violent how to explain that? drunk? Why not 400 happy drunks but angry ones instead?

they say when people drunk all the real feelings and truth comes out.

On a more micro level, traffic police should go regulate the traffic in Little India.

I am a believer in the broken windows theory. Coz people typically not bold enough to commit crimes
and must be reminded so. low level and high level FTs should be 'de-balled' to Singaporeans level (like what LKY did).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

Mob mentality.
Under the influence of alcohol, which I believe the whole bunch of them consumed would have embolden them to do stupid things.
Once they realised that no one is stopping them, more joined in. This type of scene is very common in India, I believe.
Yes, they probably know that this is not India, but if it can be done in India, why not here.
Drunkens are irrational.
Be it an indian drunken, an ang moh drunken or chinese drunken, seen them all, the effect is the same.

(09-12-2013, 11:03 AM)specuvestor Wrote: It is not an isolated case when something of such severity happens. Only the paranoid survives. This is a low probability high consequence event.

There are many issues at hand here:

Firstly as per my my post in another thread, there is a cultural issue.
http://www.valuebuddies.com/thread-4212-...l#pid68620
Indeed OPMI is right that they think they are still in India. Similarly the Chinese think they are in China. There is a HUGE cultural divide between how Singaporeans do things and them. And they problem is that slowly but surely our culture is actually being eroded.

2ndly it is a result of rich/wealth policy. Here we see a manifestation of low level labor angry at the affluence of Singapore. Flip it over and we can also see how Singaporeans are angry with the uber rich. Instead of being the switzerland of the east by 2020, we are becoming the UAE by 2020. OTOH while this event looks impactful VISUALLY, white collar crimes, hot money, rich man's excesses would have even more devastating impact on the economy and populace as a whole if not managed properly.

3rdly the fanatical focus on the PnL of Singapore Inc has these side effects as warned many times. This is FORESEEABLE. So does the 2 casinos. Instead of using foreign labour to suppress low end labor price and cap CPI, end of day it might just be the Austalian model of increasing the price of these labour that no one wants to do, may be more effective int the long run. The irony of course is that CPI was not curbed because asset inflation killed it anyway.

I seriously hope the govt realises that these are social costs that are much too high for us to pay. The people are not always right, but in this case the people's discontent with excessive foreigners is correct.

No worries , our Gov. said they could integrate them into our society , I always have tremendous confidence in what they said . There are so many scholars and creams of the creams running this country, you see after more than 12 hours , the riot is under controlled now with some help from Gurkha, although some police cars were overturned or burned, the losses were insignificant . Believe even without the help of the Gurkha , our police is capable of controlling the situation also. Cheers .

(09-12-2013, 11:17 AM)kagemusha Wrote: Mob mentality.
Under the influence of alcohol, which I believe the whole bunch of them consumed would have embolden them to do stupid things.
Once they realised that no one is stopping them, more joined in. This type of scene is very common in India, I believe.
Yes, they probably know that this is not India, but if it can be done in India, why not here.
Drunkens are irrational.
Be it an indian drunken, an ang moh drunken or chinese drunken, seen them all, the effect is the same.

lots of drunks everyweek at clark quay, boat quay but never heard of such incidents happen.