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SoftBank
14-11-2019, 07:02 PM. (This post was last modified: 14-11-2019, 10:28 PM by CY09.)
Post: #21
RE: SoftBank
My opinion is that if not for the VC money (funded by cheap money), massive inflation would have occurred.

Because of VC's banking, we have been enjoying cheaper products such as Grab, Spotify, ecommerce, cheap airline fees and the shale oil revolution. Most of these companies are burning cash and making losses. They have been financed by large swath of equity money. Examples such as The purchase of CapitaLand vouchers at 10% discount that is financed by e commerce, Grab offers you discount to paying your taxes, airline like scoots burn through millions in losses each year etc

In my view, once the easy money sauce stops, be prepared for massive inflation. A contrarian view that a loose monetary policy will stoke inflation.

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17-11-2019, 11:15 AM. (This post was last modified: 17-11-2019, 11:16 AM by gzbkel.)
Post: #22
RE: SoftBank
The Softbank-WeWork End Game: Savior Economics or Sunk Cost Problem?
Aswath Damodaran
https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/201...avior.html

Since my pre-IPO post on WeWork, where I valued the company ahead of its then imminent offering, much has happened. The company’s IPO collapsed under the weight of its own pricing contradictions, and after a near-death experience, Softbank emerged as the savior, investing an additional $ 8 billion in the company, and taking a much larger stake in its equity. As the WeWork story continues to unfold, I am finding myself more interested in Softbank than in WeWork, largely because it’s actions cut to the heart of so many questions in investing, from how sunk costs can affect investing decisions, to the feedback effects from mark-to-market accounting, and finally on the larger question of whether smart money is really smart or just lucky.
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06-12-2019, 07:36 PM.
Post: #23
RE: SoftBank
SoftBank's Son sticks with gut-led investing in chat with Alibaba's Ma

Sam Nussey
DECEMBER 6, 2019 / 1:25 PM

TOKYO (Reuters) - Weeks after his billion-dollar bailout of WeWork, SoftBank Group Corp’s founder and CEO Masayoshi Son reiterated his belief in an instinct-led investing style, in a discussion with Alibaba Group Holding Inc’s co-founder Jack Ma.

SoftBank owns 26% of China’s Alibaba, with its origin in a $20 million investment in 2000, and the stake is now worth more than the Japanese firm’s market capitalization.

Son on Friday said the decision to invest in Alibaba was driven by a gut feeling.

Other entrepreneurs Son met at that time “did not have true belief in their heart. I can feel,” Son said. “We are the same animal. We are both a little crazy,” he said of long-time ally Ma.

Ma said Son initially tried to invest $50 million in the e-commerce firm, but that he declined saying it was too large a sum - part of a pattern of offering big cheques to company founders that continued with WeWork co-founder Adam Neumann.

Son’s comments come weeks after he was forced to bail out office-sharing startup WeWork when Neumann’s level of control over his firm and hard-partying ways chilled investor appetite and crashed plans for an initial public offering (IPO).

Son last month said he misjudged Neumann’s character, after WeWork - formally The We Company - and other sputtering bets saw his $100 billion Vision Fund report an $8.9 billion second-quarter operating loss.

The conversation at Tokyo University between two of Asia’s most prominent tech entrepreneurs comes at a point of divergence in their careers, with 55-year-old Ma retiring as Alibaba’s executive chairman in September and Son pledging to spend his sixth decade at the helm of his investment juggernaut.

Domestically, SoftBank hopes to drive commercialization of the emerging field of artificial intelligence (AI), announcing on Friday it will spend 20 billion yen ($184 million) over 10 years funding an AI research institute with Tokyo University.

Son “probably has the biggest guts in the world on doing investment,” Ma told attendees to the conference.

“Too much guts, sometimes I lose a lot of money,” Son responded.

With the highly leveraged SoftBank trying to raise funds for a second mega fund in which it is currently the only investor, its stake in Alibaba is one possible source of funds.

More details in https://www.reuters.com/article/us-softb...SKBN1YA0HB
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11-12-2019, 09:40 PM.
Post: #24
RE: SoftBank
Hmmm, is the force strong with this one ?

Trading at less than sum-of-parts(not taking tax into a/c), but I think valuation may be difficult and tech companies are prone to mkt whims and fancies.

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Wanted: Bold activist to take on SoftBank
Wed, Dec 11, 2019 - 5:50 AM

MASAYOSHI Son's SoftBank Group is worth significantly less than the sum of its parts. For an activist investor with plenty of cash and the stomach for a fight, it could be the trade of a lifetime.

Mr Son's US$82 billion tech-to-telecom conglomerate ticks the boxes for pushy shareholders like Dan Loeb's Third Point Management or Paul Singer's Elliott Management. There's poor governance - Mr Son is both chief executive and chairman and makes investments in cash-burning companies like WeWork partly based on his ability to "feel the force"........

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/garage/...n-softbank

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06-01-2020, 10:17 PM.
Post: #25
RE: SoftBank
More issues for Son ....

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'Toxic' culture and troubling incidents at Oyo
Mon, Jan 06, 2020 - 5:50 AM

.....Oyo offers rooms from unavailable hotels, such as those that have left its service...

Thousands of the rooms are from unlicensed hotels and guesthouses, its executives have acknowledged....

Oyo has also imposed extra fees on hotels and declined to pay the hotels the full amounts they claimed they were owed, according to interviews with hotel owners and employees, emails, legal complaints and other documents viewed by the paper. Some hotel operators have sought to file criminal complaints against Oyo, which said it withheld payments primarily over the hotels' customer service issues....

It would also be another black eye for SoftBank, which is Oyo's biggest investor and owns half the startup's stock. Masayoshi Son, SoftBank's chief executive, has hailed Oyo as a jewel of his company's US$100 billion Vision Fund, even as he recently wrote off billions of dollars on other investments like WeWork......

In December 2019, SoftBank and Mr Agarwal put another US$1.5 billion into Oyo to accelerate its expansion. The funding, negotiated over the summer, valued the company at US$8 billion. At the same time, two other big investors, Sequoia Capital and Lightspeed Venture Partners, reduced their holdings.....

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-es...nts-at-oyo

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07-02-2020, 06:54 PM.
Post: #26
RE: SoftBank
Japan telecom SoftBank Corp CEO sees Elliott investment as 'positive'

Reporting by Sam Nussey; Editing by Christopher Cushing
FEBRUARY 7, 2020 / 1:21 PM

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japanese telecom SoftBank Corp’s CEO Ken Miyauchi on Friday welcomed hedge fund Elliott Management’s investment in parent SoftBank Group Corp saying the activist investor’s assessment of the stock as undervalued was “positive”.

Elliott has built up a roughly 3% stake in the tech conglomerate and is pushing for changes to boost its value including strengthening corporate governance and share buybacks, sources said.

Elliott “thinks the company valuation is too low so in that sense it is currently a positive for SoftBank Group,” Miyauchi said, adding he believed corporate governance at the telco he heads was already strong.

SoftBank Group’s shares, which company executives think are chronically undervalued, closed up 7% on Friday after reports of the Elliott investment.

The comments came as SoftBank Corp reported a 15% rise in third-quarter operating profit, beating estimates, underpinned by its mobile business.

The company also raised its full-year operating profit forecast to 900 billion yen ($8.19 billion) from 890 billion yen previously.

Operating profit in the October-December quarter was 243 billion yen versus 211 billion yen a year earlier. That compared with an average forecast of 240 billion yen from three analyst estimates compiled by Refinitiv.

Japan’s third-largest telco, SoftBank Corp has pledged to pay out 85% of its net income as dividends, providing a steady stream of cash to parent SoftBank Group, which holds a 67% stake.

Miyauchi said dividends, rather than share buybacks, are the priority.

Along with a 26% stake in China’s Alibaba, the wireless carrier continues to help to support the market value of its parent, which in the quarter ended September reported its first quarterly loss in 14 years as its tech bets faltered.

Founder Masayoshi Son built his fortune by breaking into Japan’s telecoms market but his reputation could be determined by the performance of the $100 billion Vision Fund, which will report at the group’s results on Wednesday.

SoftBank Corp rivals NTT Docomo and KDDI Corp reported last week that operating profit fell 15% and rose 11%, respectively.

SoftBank’s stable earnings contrast with the fortunes of one of Son’s big early overseas bets, U.S wireless unit Sprint Corp, which last week reported falling subscriber numbers.

Analysts said prospects for the money-losing telco are grim if it does not reach a merger with larger rival T-Mobile US Inc.

More details in https://www.reuters.com/article/us-softb...SKBN2010LU
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19-03-2020, 05:51 PM.
Post: #27
RE: SoftBank
SoftBank shares close down 17% in biggest one-day fall

Sam Nussey
MARCH 19, 2020 / 1:30 PM

TOKYO (Reuters) - Shares of SoftBank Group Corp (9984.T) closed down 17% on Thursday in their biggest one-day fall, hammered by investor scepticism over the outlook for tech bets, such as office sharing firm WeWork and ridehailer Uber (UBER.N).

As economic gloom grows over a coronavirus outbreak, SoftBank racked up the second biggest fall in the benchmark index .N225, breaking the 3,000-yen level to close at 2,687 yen.

The one-day fall is greater than during the bursting of the dot-com bubble, which evaporated most of Chief Executive Officer Masayoshi Son’s wealth, as his plans to build a tech investing empire via the $100 billion Vision Fund stutter.

Uber’s shares closed down 22% overnight as people around the world stay home to try and slow the spread of the virus.

SoftBank is considering pulling out of a $3 billion tender offer for WeWork, sources said. The startup has taken long property leases but is exposed to customers pulling out of short co-working contracts as the economy deteriorates.

More details in https://www.reuters.com/article/us-softb...SKBN2160R4
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26-03-2020, 08:56 PM. (This post was last modified: 26-03-2020, 08:56 PM by weijian.)
Post: #28
RE: SoftBank
A virus that spreads among humans is the anti thesis of the sharing economy

SoftBank's big bet on sharing economy backfires with coronavirus

[TOKYO] Masayoshi Son has been among the most fervent believers in the sharing economy, investing billions in startups that help people split the use of cars, rooms and offices. But as the coronavirus curtails unnecessary human interaction, it's hammering such businesses and rattling the foundations of Mr Son's SoftBank Group.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/garage/...oronavirus

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