Panama Papers - Full List (High profile famous only)

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#11
(07-04-2016, 02:40 PM)BlueKelah Wrote: Lol took u guys long enough to post this good job. I am wondering if warren buffett or bill gates  is on the list. Will have to go find where they post the original list..

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The guys using Panama want their wealth dis-associated with their names. WB or BG, on the contrary, have their wealth associated with them and hence they appear on the annual Forbes' List. Most of these Panama users ain't on the Forbes' Who's Who but some might appear there in the 2016 edition now! Big Grin Big Grin
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#12
Unlikely warren buffett or bill gates is on the list else it would have been all over the news

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#13
Business Times published an article on why the Americans were missing in the Panama Papers

Extracted from the article :

"Americans have so many tax havens to choose from," said Nicholas Shaxson, author of "Treasure Islands: Tax Havens and the Men who Stole the World," a 2011 book on secretive centers for hiding money.

Indeed, Americans do not have to go abroad to hide funds and activities behind anonymous corporations: they can create them at home.

States like Delaware and Wyoming allow the creation of such companies, for just a few hundred dollars, that conceal their ultimate financial beneficiary

And while US banks are normally required to "know their customers," they can bypass that rule and open accounts for shell companies, ensuring total discretion for someone who wants to move money around quietly.

The US Treasury is moving to stop the practice, which can be used by arms and drug traffickers to launder funds and ranks the United States third in the Tax Justice Network's ranking of the world's least transparent countries, well above Panama.

The Treasury is moving to plug that loophole, however.

"We're in the last stages of drafting the final rule," a Treasury official told AFP.

But there is another possible reason that Americans are not so visible in the Panama Papers.

Spurred by the need to halt huge, blatant tax evasion by Americans using foreign banks, Washington in recent years has cracked down with lawsuits, arrests and tighter laws that have targeted both the banks offering safe haven and those hiding money in them.

Swiss banks were hit in particular. UBS and Credit Suisse, respectively, had to pay fines of US$780 million and US$2.6 billion for having helped US citizens hide money.

The result, Mr Shaxson said, is that now "there are a few tax havens around the world that are very frightened of American clients, because they know that the US can hit them." Nevertheless, the seeming absence of Americans from the Panama Papers has fed conspiracy theories, such as claims the leak of the files was orchestrated by the CIA to destabilise Russia and other countries

For the full article :
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/governme...ama-papers
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#14
It does appear from these articles that there could be hidden agendas behind the Panama Papers. Another sponsor of ICIJ is USAID, allegedly a front for CIA.

Extract :

What was not reported by the newspapers, all too eager to stenographically report what they were provided by the consortium, is that ICIJ is financially supported by George Soros's Open Society Foundations and the Central Intelligence Agency-directed US Agency for International Development (USAID).

The corporate media played up the connections of various off-shore tax-dodging contrivances and money laundering vehicles to a collection of world leaders. However, instead of focusing on leaders who have direct connections to money laundering and tax evasion, for example, Argentina’s neoconservative fascism-friendly president Mauricio Macri, the ICIJ, as is their usual method, hyped fuzzy «guilt by association» links to specific leaders. Not surprisingly, the chief targets for ICIJ were the CIA's number one and number two foes, respectively – Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping.

For full article :
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/20...-form.html
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#15
If you ask me, Xi JinPing's and Putin's shady deals are juicier than Mauricio Macri(who's that???).

Incidentally, www.strategic-culture.org is sort of a moscow mouthpiece?

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#16
Americans prefer BVI and Cayman, over the Panama? What is your view? I think it is very likely so...

Why few Americans appear in the Panama Papers
08 Apr 2016 10:12
[WASHINGTON] From Russia to China, and Britain to Iceland, the revelations of the "Panama Papers" have tarnished officials and the wealthy over the implication that they hide riches offshore.

But one group is not there: prominent Americans. US tycoons and politicians are notably absent in the leaked files of the Panama law offices of Mossack Fonseca, which created thousands of shell companies worldwide to hide the identities of their ultimate owners, some of whom may have been evading taxes.

There is Hollywood mogul David Geffen, the Asylum Records and Dreamworks SKG co-founder. But there's no Americans comparable to Iceland's prime minister, or henchmen of the Russian premier - all in the Panama records - at least in what has been disclosed so far.

"There are a lot of Americans, but they are more like private citizens," said Marina Walker Guevara, deputy director of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists which coordinated the investigation and release of the Panama Papers.

However, that hardly means Americans have fully embraced financial transparency, she told AFP.

"It doesn't show that the US is outside of the offshore system; the US is actually a big player." One possible reason for their small presence in the Panama documents is that US citizens hoping to hide funds and activities offshore were not drawn to Spanish-speaking Panama as a haven, when there are options like the British Virgin islands and the Cayman Islands.

"Americans have so many tax havens to choose from," said Nicholas Shaxson, author of "Treasure Islands: Tax Havens and the Men who Stole the World," a 2011 book on secretive centers for hiding money.
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AFP
Source: Business Times Breaking News
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#17
(07-04-2016, 08:26 PM)weijian Wrote:
(07-04-2016, 02:40 PM)BlueKelah Wrote: Lol took u guys long enough to post this good job. I am wondering if warren buffett or bill gates  is on the list. Will have to go find where they post the original list..

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The guys using Panama want their wealth dis-associated with their names. WB or BG, on the contrary, have their wealth associated with them and hence they appear on the annual Forbes' List. Most of these Panama users ain't on the Forbes' Who's Who but some might appear there in the 2016 edition now! Big Grin Big Grin

Also, WB and BG have the bulk of their wealth tied to the equity of a US listed company.
The bulk of their tax would come from selling their shares, and they cant escape from that.
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#18
(08-04-2016, 03:29 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: Americans prefer BVI and Cayman, over the Panama? What is your view? I think it is very likely so...

Why few Americans appear in the Panama Papers
08 Apr 2016 10:12
[WASHINGTON] From Russia to China, and Britain to Iceland, the revelations of the "Panama Papers" have tarnished officials and the wealthy over the implication that they hide riches offshore.

But one group is not there: prominent Americans. US tycoons and politicians are notably absent in the leaked files of the Panama law offices of Mossack Fonseca, which created thousands of shell companies worldwide to hide the identities of their ultimate owners, some of whom may have been evading taxes.

There is Hollywood mogul David Geffen, the Asylum Records and Dreamworks SKG co-founder. But there's no Americans comparable to Iceland's prime minister, or henchmen of the Russian premier - all in the Panama records - at least in what has been disclosed so far.

"There are a lot of Americans, but they are more like private citizens," said Marina Walker Guevara, deputy director of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists which coordinated the investigation and release of the Panama Papers.

However, that hardly means Americans have fully embraced financial transparency, she told AFP.

"It doesn't show that the US is outside of the offshore system; the US is actually a big player." One possible reason for their small presence in the Panama documents is that US citizens hoping to hide funds and activities offshore were not drawn to Spanish-speaking Panama as a haven, when there are options like the British Virgin islands and the Cayman Islands.

"Americans have so many tax havens to choose from," said Nicholas Shaxson, author of "Treasure Islands: Tax Havens and the Men who Stole the World," a 2011 book on secretive centers for hiding money.
...
AFP
Source: Business Times Breaking News

Perhaps it is because they don't need to do it offshore. 

They can do it in Nevada, US ! 

Extract : 

It shouldn’t be surprising if nefarious characters or the family members of corrupt politicians are found to have been hiding behind shell corporations crafted in Nevada. It’s what we do.

The secrecy provided under the state’s laws of incorporation is no accident. It’s a revenue source.


For full article see: 

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arch...da/476994/
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#19
I have to agree with gutman because look at who the clients are, you got to be a bigger shark than these people or have balls of steel.

I'm sure fonseka would have very high degree of security installed on their systems with all kinds of firewalls and intruder detection systems.

Also you are not stealing email of some pretty colleague sitting across the next cubicle in the office, this theft is potentially over vast distances 2.6 terabytes dump will take days to copy out assuming in first place they can even get past all the network security without any trace is highly unlikely. such a huge upload from fonseka will cause a spike and show up in some network traffic report office users will find it slow, secretaries will start complaining phones start ringing and people will start investigating.

This is not work of some ordinary hacker group, maybe CIA NSA it is possible who knows?

or Perhaps the hacking story is make believe maybe there was no hacking involve. The easiest quickest way to steal so much computer data from anywhere without any computer hacking or risking is to find somebody from inside an organization to remove the daily or weekly backup tape cartridges containing the data, put the cartridges into their pocket and walk out of the building give it to whoever copy it offsite, then the next morning walk back in and put it back.
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#20
Insider job most likely. Backup tapes are encrypted nowadays so it is useless to most people.
You can count on the greed of man for the next recession to happen.
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