Qingmei Group Holdings

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Just got over with a conference call with Mr. Jackson Tso, CFO of Qingmei Group Holdings. This call was coordinated by Ms. Wrisney Tan from August Consulting (Qingmei's PR firm). Interestingly I was the only one on the conference call. Please find detailed below the gist of the call:

Q: What happened to turnover in 3Q2012 with revenues falling by 54.6% as compared to 3Q11.
A: They had come out with a profit warning prior to the results release. Apparently shoe manufacturers had overstocked on shoe soles in previous quarters and with a slowdown in demand for shoes, that led to a drastic reduction in orders for Qingmei. Jackson estimates that 3Q12 was the low point as far as Qingmei is concerned and things can only look up from here. We can only wait and see...

Q: What is the outlook for 4Q12?
A: Should be better than 3Q12. However the slowdown in demand will will last for about six months till the overstocking situation at the shoe manufacturers end gets sorted out and we see demand turning more normal.

Q: What is the outlook for FY2013?
A: At this point of time they would not like to make any projections.

Q: Who is involved in the massive volumes on the stock that we have recently seen?
A: They have no idea.

Q: Have any clients stopped doing business completely with Qingmei leading to the massive drop in revenues?
A: Qingmei still has all their customers intact. It's just that due to reasons mentioned above the orders across the board for all companies in the shoe manufacturing business has gone down drastically.

IN FACT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF ANY FORUM MEMBERS COULD analYSE RESULTS OF SHOE / SHOE SOLE MANUFACTURING COMPANIES IN THE PRC AND SEE IF THIS IS A GENERIC TREND ACROSS THE BOARD.

Q: What has happened to the website development for Qingmei. I had raised this question during the AGM last year and was told that the website would be up by Dec 2011. However we have seen nothing so far. I tried to make Jackson and Wrisney appreciate the fact that for a relatively large company to have no website in today's times is quiet odd and would be a definite putdown for potential investors.
A: The website will be up and running in June 2012.

(GUESS WE WILL AGAIN NEED TO WAIT AND WATCH...)

Q: Considering that the net cash hoard with the company is now around S$94 million I wanted to know about their plans for dividend payouts in 2012. Also seeing turnover down so drastically their working capital needs should also have come down quiet a bit.
A: The board will take a decision on this at the right time. Jackson assured me that he will put forward shareholder views to the board.

Well that's all I had for the day. Will have to decide what to do with my holdings... Guess I will just wait and watch...
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Hi Sgmystic

Thanks for attending the conference call on our behalf. We were not informed of the details as to when and where so we couldn't go.
At least they made the effort but i am convinced if they were to give even half of what they gave for dividends last year, shareholders' confodence will return. also, they should do some share buyback, like what Dukang is planning.
anyway, thanks. will adopt a wait and see attitude for QIngmei. will hold for at least 1-2Q
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Sgmystic, thank you for the update. Yes, I was also not aware of this conference call too otherwise I would have dialled in. Glad at least they took time off to entertain you.

I would have questioned him about the Xibodeng issue as well. I'm certainly hanging on to my holdings. Too ridiculously low to sell.
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In fact, the first question we should ask company is the Xibodeng issue and see company's reaction...it is kind of fishy...that is all
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If the cash is real, the management should use some of it to buy back its own share. It does not have to buy back a lot. This is more of a symobolic gesture ...

There are tens of thousands of web servers in China....it is a very poor showing by company to have delayed this by so long!!!
How much does it cost to maintain a website?
It has so much "cash" on hand anyway...

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Q: What has happened to the website development for Qingmei. I had raised this question during the AGM last year and was told that the website would be up by Dec 2011. However we have seen nothing so far. I tried to make Jackson and Wrisney appreciate the fact that for a relatively large company to have no website in today's times is quiet odd and would be a definite putdown for potential investors.
A: The website will be up and running in June 2012.
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(17-05-2012, 12:56 PM)Curiousparty Wrote: If the cash is real, the management should use some of it to buy back its own share. It does not have to buy back a lot. This is more of a symobolic gesture ...

I doubt markets will be convinced if it's a little bit of share buyback. To be really convinced that the business is fraud-less, either the management pump into a significant stake of his/her own money into open market purchase or return a huge dividend payment.

Else, it can be a simple case of spending "a couple of bucks" to fake confidence..
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yah, agree. If the company has no better use of the cash, just return it to shareholders...

(17-05-2012, 02:30 PM)dzwm87 Wrote:
(17-05-2012, 12:56 PM)Curiousparty Wrote: If the cash is real, the management should use some of it to buy back its own share. It does not have to buy back a lot. This is more of a symobolic gesture ...

I doubt markets will be convinced if it's a little bit of share buyback. To be really convinced that the business is fraud-less, either the management pump into a significant stake of his/her own money into open market purchase or return a huge dividend payment.

Else, it can be a simple case of spending "a couple of bucks" to fake confidence..
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Better for company to delist the stock and give shareholders back the 12.5 cents per share because Mr Market prices the stock at only 7 cents...

Kiss goodbye to 7 cents...it is going to drop to 5 cents...
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Say for example I shorted 1000 lots of Qingmei at 7 cents today, expecting that it is a fraud case.
Next day, the share is halted and then suspended.

How much will be my profit?

Theoretically, if it is a fraud case and trading halt, it is worth zero.
No real factories and so it is hard to put up a website?
No real workers and so it is hard to put up a website?
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http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/05/17/fak...d-scandal/


every thing can be FAKED over there ....
money laundering via property investment, casino, .....stock listing??
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