Spindex Industries

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Looking at the share prices over the last 5 years, Spindex has been at around the 0.8 level.

VWAP assuming they do perform a take over will likely be say 0.85.

Assuming a 20% / 30% premium, one could expect SGD 1.02 / 1.1 as take private offer.

One of the things which is frustrating is that these companies (it is a general gripe, not specific to Spindex) rarely, if ever, use the cash well.


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(Today, 03:40 AM)Shrivathsa Wrote: Looking at the share prices over the last 5 years, Spindex has been at around the 0.8 level.

VWAP assuming they do perform a take over will likely be say 0.85.

Assuming a 20% / 30% premium, one could expect SGD 1.02 / 1.1 as take private offer.

One of the things which is frustrating is that these companies (it is a general gripe, not specific to Spindex) rarely, if ever, use the cash well.

Agree on the frustrating part about proper cash use... maybe because they are a traditional family business that went public... old mindset still in place...

vwap over 5 years should be more than 0.85... i would say closer to 1 (0.8 to 1.35 range; don't count the covid dip)... at 0.85 vwap with those premiums is close to current market price which won't entice anyone.. but this is still wishful thinking..
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(Today, 03:40 AM)Shrivathsa Wrote: One of the things which is frustrating is that these companies (it is a general gripe, not specific to Spindex) rarely, if ever, use the cash well.

Hi Shrivathsa,

I am curious towards your definition of "these companies". Smile

Using cash well?

Some folks use it to keep their clan happily employed and find it rewarding. I mean, the older generation grew up as 1 big (extended) happy family and it can't get more meaningful helping your kin, isn't it? After all, many more clans broke up due to inheritance issues and if one could keep theirs happy, ain't they doing something meaningful?

Some folks don't believe in the sympathy of strangers, so it isn't wrong to keep the cash within the company coffers isn't it? After all, this is what Buffett espouses! Why pay out the cash to strangers when you (and your buddies) were the ones who took the risk, took the share price drop by the chin and endured sleepless nights/damaged relationships/impaired health to get to where you were. You (and their buddies) fully deserved everything.

I hope it is obvious by now, that "use the cash well" is very subjective.
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well i bought my ticket to this show many years back and still waiting for the show climax...
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(8 hours ago)weijian Wrote:
(Today, 03:40 AM)Shrivathsa Wrote: One of the things which is frustrating is that these companies (it is a general gripe, not specific to Spindex) rarely, if ever, use the cash well.

Hi Shrivathsa,

I am curious towards your definition of "these companies". Smile

Using cash well?

Some folks use it to keep their clan happily employed and find it rewarding. I mean, the older generation grew up as 1 big (extended) happy family and it can't get more meaningful helping your kin, isn't it? After all, many more clans broke up due to inheritance issues and if one could keep theirs happy, ain't they doing something meaningful?

Some folks don't believe in the sympathy of strangers, so it isn't wrong to keep the cash within the company coffers isn't it? After all, this is what Buffett espouses! Why pay out the cash to strangers when you (and your buddies) were the ones who took the risk, took the share price drop by the chin and endured sleepless nights/damaged relationships/impaired health to get to where you were. You (and their buddies) fully deserved everything.

I hope it is obvious by now, that "use the cash well" is very subjective.

Brings to mind Prof Mak's point made some 15 years ago ..... so will things change in the future ? guess no one knows ...

https://www.valuebuddies.com/thread-1076...#pid171894
https://governanceforstakeholders.com/20...ional-aim/ 
One good example is the ownership structure of our public companies. In Singapore, and much of Asia, concentrated ownership by families and founders is common, while in markets such as the US, the UK and Australia, dispersed ownership is the norm."
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(7 hours ago)wj1984 Wrote: well i bought my ticket to this show many years back and still waiting for the show climax...

Some reasons provided by companies who list are : better visibility, more transparency to attract business partners(e.g. customers), etc. 

Spindex is a manufacturer and relies on customers for manufacturing contracts, hence I would think transparency about its financials is advantageous(or even significant) to its business.

If you don't mind, would you care to share what you think could be compelling reasons for it to be privatized ?
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