Oil Prices

[greengiraffe]

Low price can shift the demand and supply curve of substitute but if is a general economic slow down, this not going to help much because  there aren't demand. Every damn thing fall. Coal, Oil, palm oil ... they are just "substitute" of each other. How is low oil price going to help shipping if the ship can't leave the port ? Even if it can, the oversupply of ship will pressure your rates down.

And low oil price is probably here to stay for long time. why ? Because the Tap is already build. ie. Shale oil. Evey time the price go up, shale oil will flow again and this will push down the price. How this spiral be overcome will be interesting to find out.

Fall in oil price continues to hurt, not help global economy
DateJanuary 4, 2016 - 8:52PM

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A flare-up in Middle East tensions such as this protest at the execution of a Shiite cleric, has triggered a text-book surge in oil prices. Photo: Ebrahim Noroozi

The dramatic 30 per cent decline in the oil price, after a 50 per cent drop the year before was a major market event of 2015. Now, a flare-up in Middle East tensions has the world on edge and has triggered a text-book surge in oil prices. On Monday, the price of Brent crude oil rallied almost 5 per cent.
The conventional wisdom has been to buy oil on signs of a crisis in the Middle East amid threats of reduced supply. But is that the right move by the market? Could tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia actually contribute to increased supply, further depressing the price of oil?
In a detailed August interview with Bloomberg, foreign policy expert Leslie Gelb surmised that it was policy driving the oil price rather than the oil price driving policy in the region, particularly in light of Iran striking an agreement with the US over its nuclear programme that will again allow it to sell oil to the world.
He made the prescient point that Saudi Arabia fears Iran's rising wealth more than it does its diminishing fortunes and was therefore, prepared to pump out as much oil as necessary to "make sure Iran's leaders can't put their hands on as many bucks as they would hope."
It is a reminder that oil is a far more complex commodity to analyse than any other. Recent developments remind us that the full impact of oil's demise on the financial and geopolitical landscape has yet to be fully felt.
Oil is the lubricant of the global economy and its cheapness was meant to be a good thing for everybody. The lower price should mean that every dollar that would have flown to the gulf and to distinct destinations such hedge funds managing the vast sovereign wealth and Manchester City footballers (the club is owned by a wealthy sheik) was diverted to the world's motorists, air passengers and the governments of poorer nations.
Dividend yet to come
As yet, the rest of the world has not received its oil dividend. That is because the negative impact of the vast scaling back in energy related capital expenditure has outweighed the positive impact of consumers paying less at the pump.
Economists at private equity giant, the Carlyle Group, pin much of the unexpected weakness in 2015 global growth on declining capital expenditure spend as a result of falling commodity prices.
The firm's analysis suggests the enormous impact of mining and energy related capital investment on the global economy and subsequent pull-back, had been under appreciated.
From 2000 to 2012 energy and mining capital had grown to account for 40 per cent of all global capex spending. In  the US, energy accounted for 70 per cent of fixed investment spending from 2009 to 2014.
By Carlyle's numbers, a 30 per cent decline in energy related orders was enough to pull the US industrial sector into recession. Even a 7 per cent rise in US auto sales in the first eight months of 2015 was not enough to prevent a contraction in US industrial production.
The decline in oil prices may have played a role in rising auto sales, but it does seem like the US consumer is still cautious despite the windfall.
Jason Sedawie, of Decisive Asset Management who invests in several US retailers, points out that declining oil prices "are helping the consumer to catch up deferred home and car expenses but they have pulled back on smaller purchases".
Changing consumer habits, largely the result of technology, means the beneficiaries of cheaper oil are not as easy to identify on the sharemarket. Also some analysts believe the decline in oil prices could actually support major oil stocks such as BP and Shell by forcing management to cut back on ambitious, uneconomic extraction projects and return funds to shareholders. The major oil producers have cut spending by $200 billion in 2015 but are still estimated to spend about $US650 billion annually.
Finally, the impact of oil in measuring inflation could add to an already jumpy bond market. A small rise in the oil price, from its apparent low base, could result in sharply higher quarterly inflation prints that central banks may regard as "transitory" but markets may not.
On the first working day into 2016, it already seems that oil will again be the major theme for markets.


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[lilvestor]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/saudis-...2016-01-05

Saudis flexing their financial muscle again, they are undercutting everyone and that means lower oil prices till these competitors are driven out of the market.

[BlueKelah]

History repeats, 20 years ago 1986 oil was also at lows with saudi pumping to get market share. Probably we get to enjoy cheap oil for next few years!

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[sgpunter]

The cost of pumping petrol for my car certainly did not drop at all though. Thank you PAP. 

[BlueKelah]

The cost of pumping petrol for my car certainly did not drop at all though. Thank you PAP. 

The jump in pump price from lows in FEb 2015 was probably due to the hike in petrol duty. And the rebate for road tax was only for one year. So gov make less in first year but later on will make more. So yes thank you PAP.(but its supposed to discourage use of petrol and reduce carbon emission.

After this one off event, Singapore pump prices have been very slowly going down since they maxed out in july 2015, though oil price has been coming down quick from 60 to almost 30 now which is almost half again. If we net the 20c hike off from current price, its still 20c+ more than it was in FEB 2015 before the fuel hike, but crude price is lower than a year ago.

The only conclusion I can come out with is that either the fuel retailer or the refinery companies are not passing on the discount to consumers as quickly, enjoying the expanded margin in the mean time and using the petrol duty hike as an excuse to keep prices high...

This price "gouging" is not limited to Singapore however, down under Australia is the same situation. 

Well too bad SPC already delisted and we can't buy shares in it to use as a hedge. And guess who is getting all the profits, PetroCHINA!!! DOH!!!

[level13]

The cost of pumping petrol for my car certainly did not drop at all though. Thank you PAP. 

The jump in pump price from lows in FEb 2015 was probably due to the hike in petrol duty. And the rebate for road tax was only for one year. So gov make less in first year but later on will make more. So yes thank you PAP.(but its supposed to discourage use of petrol and reduce carbon emission.

After this one off event, Singapore pump prices have been very slowly going down since they maxed out in july 2015, though oil price has been coming down quick from 60 to almost 30 now which is almost half again. If we net the 20c hike off from current price, its still 20c+ more than it was in FEB 2015 before the fuel hike, but crude price is lower than a year ago.

The only conclusion I can come out with is that either the fuel retailer or the refinery companies are not passing on the discount to consumers as quickly, enjoying the expanded margin in the mean time and using the petrol duty hike as an excuse to keep prices high...

This price "gouging" is not limited to Singapore however, down under Australia is the same situation. 

Well too bad SPC already delisted and we can't buy shares in it to use as a hedge. And guess who is getting all the profits, PetroCHINA!!! DOH!!!

Remember that petrol retail market in SG is an oligopoly. Consider the following points:

- the market for each petrol company is quite static, no need to slash px to gain cxs
- they provide jobs to plenty of locals, and contribute greatly to our economy
- as a car owner, there is no substitute YET (most cars cannot run on battery or water)

Ultimately, we need them more than they need us. So.......... do they have any incentive to reduce px?
Think about it.......... and one will gradually find that complains on high fuel px is futile.

[HitandRun]

Pain and more pain at the oil patch.

Even the Canadians are feeling it: WCS at the lowest => Western Canadian Select
Why are the Canadians cutting production? A logical explanation would be that the low oil prices aren't providing the kind of returns that a rational investor / company requires.

BUT, on the other hand, we have this "GREAT" company by the name of pioneer natural resources (PXD) that is NOT slowing down at all. It claims that its returns in the Permian Basin are in excess of 30% at current strip prices. What is known publicly is that PXD did not just "discover" the Permian Basin nor "invent" any new technology. So with the great "returns" at the Permian, why is it that PXD cannot generate even sufficient cashflow (hey, we are not even talking profits) but needs to dilute the shareholders for another 9% to raise another USD1.4 billion. This just boggles the mind somehow.

[CityFarmer]

What can we read from the consideration?  

Saudi considers IPO for oil giant Aramco: report
08 Jan 2016 06:54
[Riyadh] Saudi Arabia is considering issuing shares in state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco, the kingdom's powerful deputy crown prince told The Economist in a rare interview published Thursday.

"That is something that is being reviewed, and we believe a decision will be made over the next few months," Mohammed bin Salman told the London-based publication after the country posted a record budget deficit due to falling oil prices.

"Personally I'm enthusiastic about this step," which would be in the interests of the market, the company and greater transparency, said the prince.

Aramco could not immediately respond to an AFP request for comment.
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AFP

Source: Business Times Breaking News

[desmondxyz]

What can we read from the consideration?  

Saudi considers IPO for oil giant Aramco: report
08 Jan 2016 06:54
[Riyadh] Saudi Arabia is considering issuing shares in state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco, the kingdom's powerful deputy crown prince told The Economist in a rare interview published Thursday.

"That is something that is being reviewed, and we believe a decision will be made over the next few months," Mohammed bin Salman told the London-based publication after the country posted a record budget deficit due to falling oil prices.

"Personally I'm enthusiastic about this step," which would be in the interests of the market, the company and greater transparency, said the prince.

Aramco could not immediately respond to an AFP request for comment.
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AFP

Source: Business Times Breaking News

To let the world share the pain...

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