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(18-04-2015, 08:51 AM)GiraffeValue Wrote: (17-04-2015, 11:07 PM)Nuthing03 Wrote: 1) Historical cost is more prudent and conservative than FV.
2) Revaluation is not free.
1. True
2. True, but they still paid for it every years.
I think someone had raised this question to the AGM as to why the company continuously showing net book value of its property in the balance sheet despite they have done valuation of which the value is stated in the notes.
The Chairman gave a very PC answer. He said "We are in an electronic business, and not in property business. Why should we use F/V approach".
I think the Chairman may not be well trained in finance, I think best to attend AGM and seek an answer from the auditors, cause think they should be the best person and should be well qualified to answer
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(20-04-2015, 09:11 PM)butcher Wrote: (18-04-2015, 08:51 AM)GiraffeValue Wrote: (17-04-2015, 11:07 PM)Nuthing03 Wrote: 1) Historical cost is more prudent and conservative than FV.
2) Revaluation is not free.
1. True
2. True, but they still paid for it every years.
I think someone had raised this question to the AGM as to why the company continuously showing net book value of its property in the balance sheet despite they have done valuation of which the value is stated in the notes.
The Chairman gave a very PC answer. He said "We are in an electronic business, and not in property business. Why should we use F/V approach".
I think the Chairman may not be well trained in finance, I think best to attend AGM and seek an answer from the auditors, cause think they should be the best person and should be well qualified to answer
I don't think we should conclude that the Chairman is not well trained in finance based on that statement. In the first place, FRS 40 Investment Property allows a policy choice to account for investment property at either cost or fair value model. There is no right or wrong to choose either. Do try the auditor, I would be surprised if they can give a good reason. Disclosure of fair value is a requirement under FRS 40 even if cost model is chosen. The issue is: do you want volality in the form of reval changes to hit your balance sheet? Some like it, some don't.
On hindsight, rising property values to date may hint at a missed opportunity to expand balance sheet through reval. gains but the reverse can happen if property slump hits. To recap: original rationale behind purchase of Harrison Road buildings is for new HQ to replace Joo Seng Road and generate better recurring returns on the surplus cash (vs. putting in bank through FD).
Their focus is to generate more stable cashflows to support volatile electronics business rather than to clock paper gains that look great but add nothing much to the business till realised through subsequent sale.
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Just now got chance to buy at 0.19 for 53 lots. Wanted to snap all up but forgot password sial. Reset need the mailer sent to your house 2 workings days.
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If memory doesn't fail me based on the latest financial results quite a significant proportion of its EPS is due to FX gain.
Suppose if we strip away this FX gain the EPS is not significantly greater than 1 cent/share.So if management decides to increase dividend to 1.5 cents per share and for next financial year they failed to achieve similar EPS due to FX losses instead wouldn't the shareholders be extremely disappointed?
Having said that of course I understand one of the reasons that Powermatic Data remains undervalued relative to NAV and even taking into account the possibility of higher revaluation of its Harrison road property is that Mr Market expects a higher dividend to be moved.