Analysing REITS

Thread Rating:
  • 4 Vote(s) - 3.75 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
#81
majority rules, minority suck thumbs.... it has always been like this. Big Grin
1) Try NOT to LOSE money!
2) Do NOT SELL in BEAR, BUY-BUY-BUY! invest in managements/companies that does the same!
3) CASH in hand is KING in BEAR! 
4) In BULL, SELL-SELL-SELL! 
Reply
#82
IMHO, in BT weekend, Teh Hooi Ling has a good take on the Reits issue.


See my
Blog
My1cG (My 1c Gibberish)
DYOR (Do Your Own Research)
DNAITB (Definitely Not An Invitation To Buy)
http://qiaofengsmusings.blogspot.com/
Reply
#83
(27-11-2011, 12:54 AM)Qiaofeng Wrote: IMHO, in BT weekend, Teh Hooi Ling has a good take on the Reits issue.


See my
Blog

Great post! Let's hope it provides MAS with greater urgency for more changes (to protect minority shareholders' interest) to the REITs landscape. Can't see the BT article though as I'm not a subscriber.

Her ROC figures (I see from your blog) for FCOT and AIMSAMP are inaccurate as the Initial Capital Outlay were stated as zero. She must have gotten her figures from SGX site - FCOT and AIMSAMP were previously AllCo and MacCook and the SGX site didn't provide the IPO figures (for these 2 renamed REITs). It does provide the dividends since IPO though.

For those who are keen to calculate the ROC for these 2 REITs, IPO Price were $1.20 (AIMS) and $1 (FCOT). Both also did a 5-for-1 shares consolidation recently, so need to multiply the original Capital Outlay by 5. Also become a bit more complicated as you'd need to do some adjustment on the earlier DPU figures (before share consolidation). Confused
Luck & Fortune Favours those who are Prepared & Decisive when Opportunity Knocks
------------ 知己知彼 ,百战不殆 ;不知彼 ,不知己 ,每战必殆 ------------
Reply
#84
can we safely say that to earn from REITs u would have to buy it when its vastly below NAV?
Dividend Investing and More @ InvestmentMoats.com
Reply
#85
(27-11-2011, 10:06 AM)Drizzt Wrote: can we safely say that to earn from REITs u would have to buy it when its vastly below NAV?

and low gearing.
If the gearing is high, it is probably prudent to factor any possible capital raising activities.
Especially those who use CPF to buy REITs. Suay suay no money to subscribe right issues..
Reply
#86
(27-11-2011, 10:13 AM)yeokiwi Wrote:
(27-11-2011, 10:06 AM)Drizzt Wrote: can we safely say that to earn from REITs u would have to buy it when its vastly below NAV?

and low gearing.
If the gearing is high, it is probably prudent to factor any possible capital raising activities.
Especially those who use CPF to buy REITs. Suay suay no money to subscribe right issues..

Both Lippo linked REITs (LMIR and FirstREIT) did a massive rights issue even though their Gearing was <20%. But, they have not been doing many (1-2? since IPO), unlike the others, especially the GLC and TLC ones and of course the previously distressed ones (those previously controlled by Aussie financial cos.).

Fortune did one when their Gearing was <30%. So, not an entirely fool proof strategy to selecting REITs for your CPF funds! Wink

One possible conclusion from Ms Teh's article, assuming all her data is correct, is that if one were to subscribe to an REIT IPO and adopt a buy-and-hold strategy, the chances of making $$ (using ROC) is high ie. 14/20 (I added in FCOT as -ve ROC based on my earlier post ; I also removed CCT and KREIT as I think they were issued to the respective Sponsor's shareholders as dividend-in-specie) or 70% chance. If you add in a further selection criteria of going only for those with strong sponsors, the probability approaches 100%. This is despite many of the REITs having done multiple Equity Fund Raising Exercises or Private Placements.

But, if you plan to survive on positive cash flows (eg. retirees), that's a different story as more than half of the REITs required additional funds for new equities (which is more than the total divdends paid out!) Big Grin

Luck & Fortune Favours those who are Prepared & Decisive when Opportunity Knocks
------------ 知己知彼 ,百战不殆 ;不知彼 ,不知己 ,每战必殆 ------------
Reply
#87
Here's the article for all...Anyways, i also do not hv BT subscription. But one call access BT articles for free anything after 6pm. Smile

Published November 26, 2011

Show me the money
The Reit myth busted
Whatever Reits pay out in dividends, they will take back a few years later in the form of rights issues

By TEH HOOI LING
SENIOR CORRESPONDENT

THE high yields of real estate investment trusts (Reits) are tempting. And indeed, they have been touted as a relatively safe and stable instrument to own if one is looking for a steady stream of income. As such, many investors see Reits as a good asset class to have in one's retirement accounts.

But you know what? That Reits are good income-yielding instruments is but a myth. The thing is, whatever they pay out in dividends, they will take back - all and more - a few years later in the form of rights issues.
Here's what I found. Of the 17 Reits which have a listing history of at least four years on the Singapore Exchange, only three have not had any cash calls or secondary equity raising. The remaining 13 have had cash calls, and many had raised cash multiple times. One had a few rounds of private placement of new units which diluted the stake of existing unitholders somewhat.
For many of these Reits, the cash called back far exceeded the cash received. So, the myth of Reits as almost comparable to a fixed income instrument is really busted.

Take CapitaMall Trust (CMT) which was listed in July 2002. Assuming that Ms Retiree bought one lot or 1,000 units at the initial public offering (IPO) for a total sum of $960. For the whole of 2003, she received $57 in dividends. However in that year, CMT also had a one-for-10 rights issue. To subscribe for her entitlement, Ms Retiree would have to cough out $107.
In 2004, she would received $89 for the total number of CMT units she owned. That year, CMT had another rights issue, also one-for-10. The exercise price was higher at $1.62. To subscribe, Ms Retiree would have to fork out $178.
In 2005, CMT again had another fund raising exercise via rights issue. Ms R would pocket $124 in dividends but in that same year, had to return $282 back to the Reit.

In the next three years - 2006 to 2008 - Ms Retiree felt rich and happy. She merrily banked in her quarterly distributions which amounted to $404 for her holdings of CMT. Her one lot, after three rights issues, had grown to 1,331 units.
In the following year, another $175 was distributed. But CMT wasn't going to let Ms R be happy for long. It launched a big one - a 9-for10 rights issue. To fully subscribe for her entitlement, Ms R had to empty her bank account of a whopping $982.
And you know what, the cash call came in March 2009, when the Straits Times Index fell below 1,600 points, and many retirees were dismayed to see their investment portfolios plunge by half or more. Many fret if they would have enough left in the pot to sustain their lifestyle. Having to cough up more money for a Reit was the last thing that they wanted to do!

Negative cash flow

And here's the final tally. Since its IPO until today, a holder of one lot of CMT would have received $1,264 in cash distributions. However, in all, he or she had to return $1,549 back to the Reit so as to subscribe to their entitlement of new issues. That's a net outflow of $284 per lot.
It's the same story with K-Reit Asia, Capitacommercial Trust, Frasers Commercial Trust, Mapletree Logistics, First Reit, Lippo Malls Indo Retail Trust, AIMS AMP CAP and Saizen REIT in that what was taken back from investors was more than what was given out.
K-Reit has been one of the most aggressive fund raising Reits. Had you started with just one lot when it was listed in April 2006, you would have to dish out $8,399 to subscribe to your rights issue. Distributions amounted to $1,110, resulting in a net outflow of $7,289.
For Reits with at least four years of track record, only Fraser Centrepoint, Parkway Life and CapitaRetail China have not had any cash calls.
Instead of a rights issue, Suntec Reit raised funds by issuing new units to some institutional investors at a slight discount. Existing unitholders don't have to cough out additional cash, but they would have their share of earnings diluted somewhat.

Misalignment of interests

Reits are managed by managers, and managers are paid based on the size of the portfolio that they manage. So the incentive is for the managers to continue to raise money and expand the portfolio size. Sometimes this is not done in the best interest of unitholders.

The most recent controversy was over K-Reit's purchase of Ocean Financial Centre (OFC) from its sponsor Keppel Land. K-Reit has launched a 17-for-20 rights issue to pay for the purchase which was deemed by the market to be expensive at a time of uncertain outlook and when office rental is expected to ease.

BT reader Bobby Jayaraman argued that rather than be compensated based on factors such as the value of assets, net property income and acquisition fees, Reit managers should be paid based on a combination of growth in distribution per unit and market valuation of the Reit.

'If Reit managers were paid on the basis of distribution per unit and market valuation growth, would K-Reit have bulldozed its way through the OFC acquisition like they have done?

'The day K-Reit announced the OFC acquisition, its stock price fell close to 10 per cent and has continued sliding. Yet, its Reit manager will take home significantly increased management fees while shareholders would have lost a good chunk of their capital even as they bear significantly more risk in the form of higher leverage and potential property devaluations given the uncertain environment,' he wrote to BT.

Misalignment of interests aside, there are also unitholders who clamour for growth.

But while Reits may not be the perfect income yielding instrument that they are made out to be, they have proven their capacity for capital appreciation. Relative to the capital ploughed in, CapitaMall Trust has rewarded its unitholders with a return of 127 per cent. Most Reits have yielded positive total returns.
Instead of buying Reits for yields, some savvy investors only buy them when they see those with good quality assets trade at sharp discounts to their book value. For example in the first half of 2009, CMT was trading at 50 per cent its book value. Today, it is not as cheap. At $1.755, CMT is now trading at 13 per cent premium to its net asset value of $1.55.

Hence, valuation metrics which apply to a typical asset heavy stock would apply to Reits as well.

The writer is a CFA charterholder


(27-11-2011, 10:06 AM)Drizzt Wrote: can we safely say that to earn from REITs u would have to buy it when its vastly below NAV?

hi drizzt,
that's the conclusion i got too. End of the day, still fall back to age old 'margin of safety' concept... If one buys blue chips with low P/E or strong sponsor-REITS trading at massive NAV, because they hv a good chance of riding out the crisis, it is a no brainer when the downturn ends.
Reply
#88
> Instead of a rights issue, Suntec Reit raised funds by issuing new units to some institutional investors at a slight discount. Existing unitholders don't have to
> cough out additional cash, but they would have their share of earnings diluted somewhat.

That is a smarter thing to do, compared to all other REITs...

> Instead of a rights issue, Suntec Reit raised funds by issuing new units to some institutional investors at a slight discount. Existing unitholders don't have to
> cough out additional cash, but they would have their share of earnings diluted somewhat.

That is a smarter thing to do, compared to all other REITs...
Reply
#89
(27-11-2011, 10:13 AM)yeokiwi Wrote:
(27-11-2011, 10:06 AM)Drizzt Wrote: can we safely say that to earn from REITs u would have to buy it when its vastly below NAV?

and low gearing.
If the gearing is high, it is probably prudent to factor any possible capital raising activities.
Especially those who use CPF to buy REITs. Suay suay no money to subscribe right issues..

i know a successful REIT investor who got the majority of his shares in the GFC. He DOES NOT increase his capital when rights issues come calling. Instead, he either sell his rights on the open market or sell his existing shares to fund the rights, as he seems fit.

I guess as he got his shares cheap (high yield), he does not mind dilution and some yield reduction. Instead, to him, the key is to ensure he gets back his cash (via selling rights or dividends) rather then locking it in the REIT (and allowing the managers to earn big $ in the process)

He revealed to me that he has not invested new $ since 2009. I reckon he's ready for the next GFC.
Reply
#90
They say statistics can be misleading:

Looking at the BT table -

Probability of a REIT being listed for at least 3 years delivering > 30% ROC given that it did not raise equity = 4/4 = 100%

Probability of a REIT being listed for at least 3 years delivering > 30% ROC given that it raised equity = 8/14 = 57.1%

Obviously, a larger number of REITs which had > 30% ROC would have raised equity before due to the larger base rates. I think the correct way to look at this problem is to examine the probability of success given that you have a REIT who had raised equity. This shows that it is safer to invest in a REIT manager who focuses on organic growth to drive the DPU going forward. Rights issue / placements are not sure-fire way to growth.

Please point out any error in my understanding Smile

(Vested in First REIT)
Disclaimer: Please feel free to correct any error in my post. I am not liable for anything. Do your own research and analysis. I do NOT give buy or sell calls and stock tips. Buy and sell at your risk. I am not a qualified financial adviser so I do not give any advice. The postings reflects my own personal thoughts which may or may not be accurate.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 8 Guest(s)