Construction counters

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#51
(02-01-2011, 02:18 AM)vader1671 Wrote: 8) NAV
The company is trading at NAV so I don’t believe that it is not too expensive. It’s a bit difficult to find a good construction counter trading below NAV.

Thank you for your detailed analysis on CES and LKH. As for construction
companies trading below NAV you might like to take a look at Lum Chang, KSH and Koh brothers.

I'm vested in KSH because of the dividend yield which is closed to 8% as well as the current price (25 cents) which is trading below its NAV of (34.95 cents).

My main concern about the company is their falling order book which is currently at S$243 millions. Hopefully, the company is able to secure more orders this year from their old customers such as Lippo Group or Ho Bee as well as their own property project (cityscape).
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#52
(02-01-2011, 12:25 PM)yeokiwi Wrote: Wow, vader1671, that's a very detailed analysis.

For LKH, there are other pts to take note.
1) 40% stake in Minton Rise. Kheng Leong and LKH acquired the land at very low cost.
2) undervalued assets. Duxton hotel group.

The Low family had spent quite some money early this year taking over GCB and GCB held more than 50% of LKH.
I thought they must have pretty good confidence in value of LKH.

I am vested in LKH and currently just hanging around for bumper dividend. I am not expecting much development upcoming as the outstanding projects are the punggol DBSS, Minton Rise where sales aren't that fantastic.

Of course, it can treated as an asset play but when the value can be fully unlocked? I am not certain especially I have no knowledge for overseas properties.

One sharing I can offer is that if you look at LKH recent contract win for refurbishing of 6 Battery Road may give some insight in LKH future direction in old buildings. However, this is just a hypothesis and required to be verified with future contract wins.
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#53
Hi Vader,
thanks for the information on the various construction companies.

competition:
although barriers to entry are high, their actual competitiors are the foreign chinese construction co.(some even dabble in property development locally) and some unlisted local construction co. you may want to check GEBIZ(where information on bids/tender price are easily availble for each project).

profit margin:
i wonder if they can sustain. i could be wrong, but my memory seems to suggest it's only recent years that we see reports of >10mil profit from construction companies.
sorry still can't get over past failures like wee poh, chew eu hock and the likes. maybe they got killed when hdb stop building program?
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#54
Wow, looks like everyone is looking at the juicy construction counter rather than the boring roadworks counter. haha.

(02-01-2011, 12:25 PM)yeokiwi Wrote: Wow, vader1671, that's a very detailed analysis.

For LKH, there are other pts to take note.
1) 40% stake in Minton Rise. Kheng Leong and LKH acquired the land at very low cost.
2) undervalued assets. Duxton hotel group.

The Low family had spent quite some money early this year taking over GCB and GCB held more than 50% of LKH.
I thought they must have pretty good confidence in value of LKH.

I must be honest, I only used LKH because it seemed like a company with a market cap equal to CES. I cannot much since I didn't delve into the report's details, but going by the numbers LKH looks like a solid ROE 15% company, which is more than respectable, but I was looking for a little more and found CES.

(02-01-2011, 08:57 PM)ngcheeki Wrote:
(02-01-2011, 02:18 AM)vader1671 Wrote: 8) NAV
The company is trading at NAV so I don’t believe that it is not too expensive. It’s a bit difficult to find a good construction counter trading below NAV.

Thank you for your detailed analysis on CES and LKH. As for construction
companies trading below NAV you might like to take a look at Lum Chang, KSH and Koh brothers.

I'm vested in KSH because of the dividend yield which is closed to 8% as well as the current price (25 cents) which is trading below its NAV of (34.95 cents).

My main concern about the company is their falling order book which is currently at S$243 millions. Hopefully, the company is able to secure more orders this year from their old customers such as Lippo Group or Ho Bee as well as their own property project (cityscape).

I've taken a look at Koon which has heart stopping swings of ROE over the years (too much for my poor heart). KSH had solid numbers but didn't make my initial filter due to ROE hovering around 15% (which is very good, but I was looking at > 20%) but it is trading below NAV which makes me wonder. When I have the time, I think I'll take a look, thanks for the suggestion.

(02-01-2011, 10:17 PM)barista Wrote: Hi Vader,
thanks for the information on the various construction companies.

competition:
although barriers to entry are high, their actual competitiors are the foreign chinese construction co.(some even dabble in property development locally) and some unlisted local construction co. you may want to check GEBIZ(where information on bids/tender price are easily availble for each project).

profit margin:
i wonder if they can sustain. i could be wrong, but my memory seems to suggest it's only recent years that we see reports of >10mil profit from construction companies.
sorry still can't get over past failures like wee poh, chew eu hock and the likes. maybe they got killed when hdb stop building program?

Thanks for the info on GEBIZ, I'll certainly take a look at it. I find it difficult to understand why some companies make it such a chore for investors to find such important information.

I never did actually consider foreign entry, but you're right, that's a quick way to get entry into the Singapore market. However, aren't there some certifications required and some track record that you need to build up to really begin entrenching yourself? How long would a foreign entrant take to build up the necessary base? I'm not too familiar with that, unfortunately. So much to learn...

I was not around (well I was, but quite young) during the 1997 collapse. What happened? Perhaps we can use that information to determine whether history will repeat itself for these new companies. CES and LKH has a good amount of cash reserves which should see them survive a blip or two, but I do wonder if they can survive something like what you mention.
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#55
the gross margin of construction companies is really thin, around 10%, the profit margin is even lower.

they requires huge amount of order book to sustain their operation, maybe that's one of the reasons many went under during last construction bust.
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#56
Koon closed up $0.015 (5.1%) with decent volume (295 lots vs. 3 mth avg 170 lots) today, not bad for a "sleepy" counter.

Is the market anticipating a good set of full year results and attractive angpow dividend coming up? Big Grin
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#57
Perhaps today's buying of this usually 'kooning' counter is related to the announcement released today (7Feb11) on Koon's Share Trading Policy in compliance with ASX Listing Rule 12.9.....
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/V...0001551C2/$file/KHLTradingPolicy07Feb2011.pdf?openelement

Having read the document, I was quite impressed with Koon's rather eloborate Share Trading Policy. If properly implemented and observed by all incumbents, I suppose the Share Trading Policy will, to a certain extent, support and promote an orderly and real market for this counter.
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#58
Yes I thought so too. Agree that the trading policy is very elaborate, though I'm quite skeptical of the effectiveness of such a policy as there are many ways of getting around it.
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#59
with low wage foreign workers, the margin of construction counter is still quite bad. What if there is more levy on foreign hires? What if there will be fewer foreigners coming to Singapore for low wage work? Can construction counters survive?
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#60
does construction companies have the power to pass the increased levies cost to developers/government boards? will the low margin get further squeezed by the increased levies?
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