PC decline is not temporary: Study

[freedom]

tablets so far for office use is still limited. even basic functions such as replying emails is so difficult.

[specuvestor]

Corporates are always one step behind because safety, security, legacy, compatibility are more important than techie

BYOD is already a trend in US but I think will take some time to catch on due to the above and also added complexity for IT guys. If emails or work applications are all in the cloud, then it starts to make sense. Otherwise making an app for every function will be labourious for the inhouse IT.

If the purpose of NB is primarily portability than I think it is obvious tablet fits the bill. If the purpose of PC is processing intensive then the excessive CPU power already does that. The gaming community is already telling us that. However in terms of ease of software usage compatibility from tablet to desktop, MSFT lags big time. Apple was integrating OS X with iOS... if anyone can do a seamless job from mobile to desktop it would be Jobs. It is frustrating as it is unfulfilled.

I FEEL the tablet has stagnated, though it was destined to do much more. Dot com idea of net computing is a valid but alas still unreachable concept.

[sgd]

I heard the reason they don't allow mobile devices is because hacking is very real these days. Allowing mobile devices will just be allowing hackers easier access to stealing info.

But even without mobile devices or internet people still can steal info, computer hacking is at a new level those that still use internet for hacking are consider quite backward.

The israeli's developed stuxnet. Concept of stux net is much like some of the aztech devices these days can allow your computer in one room to talk to maybe the internet router in another room using the power electrical grid in your home to relay network traffic back and fourth and access internet.

One of the interesting capabilities of earlier versions of stuxnet I read is that they can monitor power usage from remote. Say a suspect terrorist is monitored to use x amount of electricity month to month for his refrigerator then suddenly electrical consumption in that electrical unit increases dramatically could be a sign he's having a weekend party or he's stocking up food supply maybe expecting more accomplices to arrive.

If they can monitor traffic and talk to devices via power grid they don't need internet to hack your systems for info.

[specuvestor]

If they can monitor traffic and talk to devices via power grid they don't need internet to hack your systems for info.

The power grid is just a conduit. The device need a software layer to talk via the power sockets like the Aztech plug. You cant communicate with the PC power supply or refrigerator motor

However it is true that you can hack into a system via say a fax machine because it is a communication device with communication protocol, if u know how

Communication through the power grid is a dot com idea. It is more likely to have power sockets all over the house than telephone wires. But with the ease of wireless communication, IMHO power grid as a conduit is dead.

[sgd]

If they can monitor traffic and talk to devices via power grid they don't need internet to hack your systems for info.

The power grid is just a conduit. The device need a software layer to talk via the power sockets like the Aztech plug. You cant communicate with the PC power supply or refrigerator motor

However it is true that you can hack into a system via say a fax machine because it is a communication device with communication protocol, if u know how

Communication through the power grid is a dot com idea. It is more likely to have power sockets all over the house than telephone wires. But with the ease of wireless communication, IMHO power grid as a conduit is dead.

More recently the israeli's were able to use stuxnet to sabotage the motors in centrifuges in Iran so yeah they can talk to motors and cause it to malfunction but it's true you need software to translate.

If they can do that can they come in via electrical grid and read the data from off your hardrive?

Years ago I heard a story that in US they raided the home of a prc researcher working for defense company and found classified data on his home pc that came from his office place. Even with tight security in place at his office like disabling usb or disable internet, how was he able to copy out info? Makes one wonder if the china already have "stux" like software for sometime.

So while every wannabe computer hacker is trying to find ways to overcome and penetrate circumvent the network firewall defenses they have overlooked the electrical grid that is wide open.

[freedom]

I am not sure how many people have typed long email using mobile device besides Blackberry.

it is very painful. You need check the emails a few times before sending out... too many typos...

[LionFlyer]

I am not sure how many people have typed long email using mobile device besides Blackberry.

it is very painful. You need check the emails a few times before sending out... too many typos...

Personally, I prefer keyboard and until very recently, I had a smartphone with a physical qwerty keyboard (US model, not found in Singapore). But alas, time to move on. There are options.

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[freedom]

I am not sure how many people have typed long email using mobile device besides Blackberry.

it is very painful. You need check the emails a few times before sending out... too many typos...

Personally, I prefer keyboard and until very recently, I had a smartphone with a physical qwerty keyboard (US model, not found in Singapore). But alas, time to move on. There are options.

[Image: Logitech_Ultrathin_Keyboard_Cover_for_iP...10x459.jpg]

if there is a keyboard, how do you define it as a tablet or a PC?

to me, it is just a smaller PC.

[specuvestor]

The business that sells PC, NB or tablet will know the difference or definition because it hits their PnL. To consumers it may just well be academic, which is exactly the point on cannibalisation

[Boon]

Worldwide PC shipments declined 10.9% in 2Q13, says Gartner

Press release, July 12; Joseph Tsai, DIGITIMES [Friday 12 July 2013]

Worldwide PC shipments dropped to 76 million units in the second quarter of 2013, a 10.9% decrease from the same period in 2012, according to preliminary results from Gartner. This marks the fifth consecutive quarter of declining shipments, which is the longest duration of decline in the PC market's history.

All regions showed a decline compared to a year ago. The fall in the Asia Pacific PC market continued, showing five consecutive quarters of shipment decline, while the EMEA PC market registered two consecutive quarters of double-digit decline..............................

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130712PR200.html