Performance in 2012

[tau281290]

I don't understand how people calculate their realised or unrealised gains/losses. If mr. buffett calculates his returns as realised gains he would have probably gained very little because he holds his things forever!

[Musicwhiz]

I don't understand how people calculate their realised or unrealised gains/losses. If mr. buffett calculates his returns as realised gains he would have probably gained very little because he holds his things forever!

Buffett collects loads of dividends.

[specuvestor]

I don't understand how people calculate their realised or unrealised gains/losses. If mr. buffett calculates his returns as realised gains he would have probably gained very little because he holds his things forever!

Buffett collects loads of dividends.

Buffett shows his top unrealised gains in his annual report. but yes he is more interested in cashflow

[corydorus]

Is kind of misleading to say we have 1000% realised gains when you are also holding equal amount of suspended poor performer stocks holding with virtually no chance to get dividends or recovery as unrealised...

Yes. It has to be total gain/loss regardless realise or not. Some time pp has the concept that loss will return "automatically" to even field.

[tau281290]

Like I said before, this forum needs some serious moderations in calculating returns. Moderators, can you please put in a single solid structure for recording returns like all the funds out there. Using NAV is the best method. While we can't audit other people's returns, we just have to put our faith into honest forumers. At least we can still have apples to apples comparison.

[corydorus]

I think not everyone agreed NAV is best though. I still prefer XIRR.

[thefarside]

Like I said before, this forum needs some serious moderations in calculating returns. Moderators, can you please put in a single solid structure for recording returns like all the funds out there. Using NAV is the best method. While we can't audit other people's returns, we just have to put our faith into honest forumers. At least we can still have apples to apples comparison.

Why the fixation over this? Person A says he earns 40%, person B says 25%, person C says NAV = x, person D says NAV = y. How would having those who choose to "report" their performance, do so via a standardised method, improve you as an investor, in terms of skills and knowledge? By doing what the top performer says he does? By duplicating his portfolio? By bookmarking all his company posts and buying all of them?

You can mine the forums for facts and knowledge. But growing your wealth starts from within, and I say this to all those who think that Valuebuddies is a tip jar to success.

Lastly, this is an internet forum. Nobody owes anyone a living anywhere, least of all here.

[KopiKat]

Like I said before, this forum needs some serious moderations in calculating returns. Moderators, can you please put in a single solid structure for recording returns like all the funds out there. Using NAV is the best method. While we can't audit other people's returns, we just have to put our faith into honest forumers. At least we can still have apples to apples comparison.

I think not everyone agreed NAV is best though. I still prefer XIRR.

I imagine this scenario if the suggestion is implemented...

"You'll get a 1st warning for posting XIRR instead of NAV. If you violate the rules again on posting XIRR instead of NAV, we'll freeze you for 1 week. One more violation, and you're permanently out...."


PS. I think very few will want to share their performance in future...

[yeokiwi]

Those who put the information here put their information freely.
Unless someone is going to pay me to do a calculation based on whatever metric, why should I bother to do it in any specific way?

In short, I do not give a damn on what do you think of my portfolio return.

[felixleong]

relax, it doesnt matter that much