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#51
(18-10-2012, 01:51 PM)KopiKat Wrote:
(18-10-2012, 12:09 PM)money Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 08:13 PM)KopiKat Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 05:39 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The share price drop back to IPO price of $0.77, with the highest volume of 8.5 mil shares. Total volume today is 10.2 mil shares

Stabilizing Action
4,939,000 @ $0.765 to $0.77

Hmmm, if the share price keeps falling, does that mean that the stabilising manager will lose money despite earning fees for underwriting the IPO?

If my understanding is correct, they'll make more $$ if they buy at below IPO price for the stabilizing action. Here's my understanding of how this works,

When an IPO is over-subscribed, the underwriters will exercise their Over-Allotment option ie. borrow some units from the vendors to over-allot (ie. more than the original nos. of shares) to successful IPO applicants.

The same nos. borrowed from the vendors will now be equal to the nos. that'll be used by the Stabilizing Manager (they changed their hat) to buy from the Open Market (upon listing) to provide price stabilization (to prevent it from falling too much and too fast). After the stabilization period (usually 30 days), whatever they'd bought (up to the limit borrowed) will be returned to the vendor.

So, if they'd managed to buy from the open market at below IPO price (no stabilizing required if above IPO price), they'll make the difference. If they're unable to buy any or all (the borrowed units) from the open market, their agreement with the vendor is that there's no need to return ie. Vendor happily have a smaller stake in the IPOed entity.

So, looks like a sure win situation for the Underwriter cum Stabilizing Manager to me... as long as they're able to place out all units. Now, we wonder why underwriters are so eager to create and package new 'instant' companies for IPOs... as long as they can create a compelling story for suckers oops.. I mean investors, to rush to grab such IPO units... Rolleyes

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#52
(18-10-2012, 10:44 AM)KopiKat Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 08:13 PM)KopiKat Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 05:39 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The share price drop back to IPO price of $0.77, with the highest volume of 8.5 mil shares. Total volume today is 10.2 mil shares

Stabilizing Action
4,939,000 @ $0.765 to $0.77

(18-10-2012, 10:30 AM)freedom Wrote: 0.725 as now. volume more than 7 million shares.

seems market is not convinced by its valuation, either.

Total available for Stabilizing (Pg3) = 17,159,000 Shares
Looking at the nos. used yesterday and the current price, looks like going to be used up very fast....

Another 5,700,000 @ $0.705 to $0.77 today. Closed @ $0.735.
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#53
What about the shareholders' interest, after the stabilizing period ends?
They will become long term investors.
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#54
does long term automatically imply investor?

there are more people stuck for long term than people investing for long term probably.
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#55
Agree with you, freedom. Let me change the term to long term shareholders.
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#56
(18-10-2012, 01:51 PM)KopiKat Wrote: ...
So, looks like a sure win situation for the Underwriter cum Stabilizing Manager to me... as long as they're able to place out all units. Now, we wonder why underwriters are so eager to create and package new 'instant' companies for IPOs... as long as they can create a compelling story for suckers oops.. I mean investors, to rush to grab such IPO units... Rolleyes

Thanks kopikat, wonderful explanation you have here about how the stabilising manager makes profits Smile
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#57
(19-10-2012, 01:34 PM)money Wrote:
(18-10-2012, 01:51 PM)KopiKat Wrote: ...
So, looks like a sure win situation for the Underwriter cum Stabilizing Manager to me... as long as they're able to place out all units. Now, we wonder why underwriters are so eager to create and package new 'instant' companies for IPOs... as long as they can create a compelling story for suckers oops.. I mean investors, to rush to grab such IPO units... Rolleyes

Thanks kopikat, wonderful explanation you have here about how the stabilising manager makes profits Smile

A classic case of heads I win, tails you lose.
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#58
(18-10-2012, 11:20 PM)KopiKat Wrote:
(18-10-2012, 10:44 AM)KopiKat Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 08:13 PM)KopiKat Wrote:
(17-10-2012, 05:39 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The share price drop back to IPO price of $0.77, with the highest volume of 8.5 mil shares. Total volume today is 10.2 mil shares

Stabilizing Action
4,939,000 @ $0.765 to $0.77

(18-10-2012, 10:30 AM)freedom Wrote: 0.725 as now. volume more than 7 million shares.

seems market is not convinced by its valuation, either.

Total available for Stabilizing (Pg3) = 17,159,000 Shares
Looking at the nos. used yesterday and the current price, looks like going to be used up very fast....

Another 5,700,000 @ $0.705 to $0.77 today. Closed @ $0.735.

Another 2,200,000 @ $0.71 to $0.735 today. Closed @ $0.735 (same as yesterday)



(19-10-2012, 12:25 PM)wsreader Wrote: What about the shareholders' interest, after the stabilizing period ends?
They will become long term investors.

There's a good chance that prices are stabilising at $0.735 (2 days close in a row). Volume is also getting lower, so, those who'd been 'successful' during IPO balloting and who're not long term investors may be slowly getting weeded out. If so, the Stabilizing Manager may start to nudge up the price slowly to IPO level. BUT, with aro' 4Mil+ units left for stabilizing, it'll require some luck.... Possible for a 'stag'...?? Dodgy
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#59
Indonesia's protectionist measures for local retailers is a substantial risk for foreign retailer e.g. Courts Asia

Indonesia recently allowed big retailers such as supermarkets and departmental stores to operate, thus Courts Asia able to venture into Indonesia's market, but regular policy change remains a serious concern.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/aec/Clam...91259.html

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2012/06/18/...m-the-past
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#60
(19-10-2012, 10:48 PM)KopiKat Wrote: Volume is also getting lower, so, those who'd been 'successful' during IPO balloting and who're not long term investors may be slowly getting weeded out. If so, the Stabilizing Manager may start to nudge up the price slowly to IPO level. BUT, with aro' 4Mil+ units left for stabilizing, it'll require some luck.... Possible for a 'stag'...?? Dodgy
how did u know ard 4mio units are left?
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