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Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
18-06-2017, 06:51 PM.
Post: #21
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
Hi Terry, that would be an ideal situation (directors of tat seng who are also directors of hanwell being paid less by hanwell) but these people probably don't see it that way.

It is difficult to control the members and salaries when both the companies have the same executive chairman.

And both the companies have the same people (3 of them) as independent directors on both the nominating committee and remuneration committee.

So you have the same people deciding who should be on the board, and how much board members should get paid, in both companies.

It is not uncommon to have some directors of a parent company also sitting on the board of a subsidiary. Though it is unlikely for such a situation to be seen in larger cap companies. It should also be noted that the tat seng contributes the lion's share of hanwell's profit.

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19-06-2017, 09:53 AM.
Post: #22
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
(18-06-2017, 05:26 PM)Terry Wrote: Just curious. is it a norm for a company to like hanwell to buy a subsidiary tat seng , subsequently get fat salary from both side.


My understanding is that the salary for the director in hanwell is suppose to compensate them for managing the portion in consumer business & others.
Since the paycheck is already paid in tat seng.


I took a look at the ARs (i don't have prior knowledge of both companies) but as Tat Seng is 64% owned by Hanwell, Tat Seng's results are consolidated into Hanwell's. So Tat Seng's top/bottom line are already part of Hanwell's. As such, the remuneration published in Tat Seng's AR (subsidiary) is simply a subset of that in Hanwell's (parent) and are overlapping for those who take executive positions in both companies, ie. Chairman Yap and his young wife Dr Tang.

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19-06-2017, 10:15 AM.
Post: #23
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
See Hanny & Rosedale listed in HK....I would not invest with Allen Yap...
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19-06-2017, 03:30 PM.
Post: #24
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
(19-06-2017, 09:53 AM)weijian Wrote: As such, the remuneration published in Tat Seng's AR (subsidiary) is simply a subset of that in Hanwell's (parent) and are overlapping for those who take executive positions in both companies, ie. Chairman Yap and his young wife Dr Tang.


Where can we verfiy this?

Is what you claimed also true for independent directors?

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19-06-2017, 05:04 PM.
Post: #25
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
hi karlmax,
Hoping any accounting-trained VBs to verify what i just mentioned earlier.

For IDs, it is not true as their directorship are not executive in nature and since Hanwell and Tat Seng are separate entities with (technically) different board representatives. I have seen some cases in which a parent co. has a representative on its subsidiary co's board (non executive director), and the director fees are paid as "related party transactions" to the parent co.

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20-06-2017, 07:10 PM.
Post: #26
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
(19-06-2017, 05:04 PM)weijian Wrote: hi karlmax,
Hoping any accounting-trained VBs to verify what i just mentioned earlier.

For IDs, it is not true as their directorship are not executive in nature and since Hanwell and Tat Seng are separate entities with (technically) different board representatives. I have seen some cases in which a parent co. has a representative on its subsidiary co's board (non executive director), and the director fees are paid as "related party transactions" to the parent co.

Hi weijian

I concur with your understanding.  The declaration under Tat Seng relate to the company Tat Seng alone, whereas the declaration under Hanwell relates to the Group of Companies under the Holding company Hanwell.  

Extract from Hanwell AR - 
Summary compensation table of the Directors receiving remuneration from the Group for the financial year ended 31 December 2016 is set out below:

Thus, for example, the remuneration for Allan Yap is S$1458k in total from all the companies under the Hanwell Group.

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20-06-2017, 09:39 PM.
Post: #27
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
hi Yoyo,
Thanks for confirming my understanding. Appreciate it.

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10-01-2019, 05:38 PM. (This post was last modified: 10-01-2019, 05:41 PM by Scg8866t.)
Post: #28
RE: Hanwell Holdings (formerly: PSC Holdings)
Hanwell finally willing to payout surplus cash back to sh. 3.6cts per share which is ard 20% of market cap

https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-an...e46aa9d71c

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