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More share buy backs..

17 Sept - 200 lots @ 22.3 cts
11 Sept - 200 lots @ 21.5cts
18 Jul - 300 lots @ 22.5cts (they are paying more after XD!!)
17 Jul - 98 lots @ 22.5 cts (they are paying more after XD!!)
11 Jul - 239 lots @ 22.3 cts
5 Jul - 250 lots @ 22.5 cts
4 Jul - 280 lots @ 22.49 cts
1) Try NOT to LOSE money!
2) Do NOT SELL in BEAR, BUY-BUY-BUY! invest in managements/companies that does the same!
3) CASH in hand is KING in BEAR! 
4) In BULL, SELL-SELL-SELL! 
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Price dropping! Time to accumulate?
Patience is a virtue.
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21.5cts + dividends..
think can go lower after XD... Smile

due to short term negative sentiment...
1) Try NOT to LOSE money!
2) Do NOT SELL in BEAR, BUY-BUY-BUY! invest in managements/companies that does the same!
3) CASH in hand is KING in BEAR! 
4) In BULL, SELL-SELL-SELL! 
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Steel price on uptrend. Which stockist will be the best to hold? Asia Ent or Hupsteel?
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(08-10-2013, 04:11 PM)NTL Wrote: Steel price on uptrend. Which stockist will be the best to hold? Asia Ent or Hupsteel?

Both!! :d 50% 50%!
1) Try NOT to LOSE money!
2) Do NOT SELL in BEAR, BUY-BUY-BUY! invest in managements/companies that does the same!
3) CASH in hand is KING in BEAR! 
4) In BULL, SELL-SELL-SELL! 
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(08-10-2013, 04:35 PM)brattzz Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 04:11 PM)NTL Wrote: Steel price on uptrend. Which stockist will be the best to hold? Asia Ent or Hupsteel?

Both!! :d 50% 50%!

Lets compare last quarter results

Asia Ent / HupSteel
Revenue: $32.2M / $32.9M
Gross Profit: $3.6M / $5.4M*
Net Profit: $1.3M / $0.97M
Cashflow (Past 4Q): +18.8M/-13.2M
EPS (1Q): 0.39c / 0.16c
EPS (Past 4Q): 0.54c / 0.41c
NAV/share: 31.87c / 32.44c
Cash/share: 13.2c / 7.2c
Dividend/share (Full Yr): 1c / 1c
Share Price: 21.5c / 21.5c

* Hupsteel's profit includes a $14.1M change in inventory

Seems like Asia Ent is slightly better?
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(08-10-2013, 04:11 PM)NTL Wrote: Steel price on uptrend. Which stockist will be the best to hold? Asia Ent or Hupsteel?

Yes, indeed steel price is on an uptrend. According to an article in the Edge Sep 16 issue, steel price have come back 20% and steel mills are suddenly profitable. On top of that, shipbuilding industry is on a clear recovery and that should further lift the performance of Asia Ent and/or Hupsteel.
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Hi, which page of Edge Sep 16 - 22 issue, can the article be found?

do not remember seeing any article relating to steel prices, except one big section of several pages of Iskandar properties
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Some alternative sources on steel price / demand.

7 Oct - The World Steel Association (worldsteel) released its Short Range Outlook (SRO) for 2013 and 2014. worldsteel forecasts that global apparent steel use will increase by 3.1% to 1,475 Mt in 2013 following growth of 2.0% in 2012. In 2014, it is forecast that world steel demand will grow further by 3.3% and will reach 1,523 Mt.

Source: http://www.worldsteel.org/media-centre/p...tlook.html

John Anton of IHS Global Insight provided a forecast earlier this week calling for HRC prices to rise into the 1st Quarter 2014.
The IHS Global Insight steel forecast calls for 2014 steel prices to rise by approximately 10 percent above the 2013 average “which will hurt your budget but not crush you.”

The elephant in the room is China which now controls 50 percent of the global steel market (and growing). Mr. Anton suggested during his talk that China has the ability to produce 960 million to 1.10 billion (with a “b”) metric tons of steel on an annualized basis. He told the group that China is currently on pace to produce approximately 800 million metric tons this year and price support levels in China are in balance with demand at approximately 680 to 700 million metric tons.

Anton’s forecast is based on China cutting production – something he thought would have happened earlier this year but to date has not. “The average profit per ton is less than a dollar. It’s less than a bowl of rice.” In the past the Chinese mills have reacted to poor domestic pricing by cutting production. With most of the mills making a loss and the Chinese economy growing at 7.5 percent rather than 10 percent or higher, Mr. Anton believes the Chinese mills will respond and shrink production.

IHS believes the reason the Chinese mills continue to operate and over-produce is not from government subsidies but rather through loans from the banking system. The bank loans being made are not being repaid and eventually will need to end. Once the loans dry up the mills will close the next day.

Source: http://www.steelmarketupdate.com/modules...newsId=354
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Price is the most important factor to use in relation to value - Walter Schloss
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Wouldn't a steel producer be a better way to gain exposure to the recovery? A steel price recovery might be beneficial to hupsteel if it can maintain a nice trading spread. They might get better revenues but will have higher inventory replacement costs? Please advice.
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