Unusual cash cows

[KopiKat]

it's just very scary to know that some random guy or company that we are talking about will pop up once in a while. and if they don't even say hello to us, we will never know that they are constantly monitoring us

Rest assured that there are at least 10 other pairs of eyes (my ball park estimate) in this forum who'll be around to assist and support each other to welcome them when they do decide to pop in to say hello.

Having said that, as long as we post responsibly and support with facts and figures, there's nothing to be afraid of.

BTW, what happened to that post by that nick (can't exactly remember the nick but I think got James + Gu / Niu since it seems so conincidently related to the product) who was trying to 'teach' us how to improve our investment skills by consulting our girlfriend/mother (he must have left out wife cos' he's young and single?)?? Unfortunately, we are now left with his quotes for future case studies purposes,

Hi, I personally have spoken and meet with the Salisbury company. In revert to you comment of 'I doubt', perhaps you do doubt however you do not know! D.O.G is so confident in his summary that he hides behind a set of initials for mans best friend. Next you'll be asking your mum or girlfriend if you can invest.

Now, I am totally convinced that this investment sucks.

Abraham Lincoln quote - "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Next you'll be asking your mum or girlfriend if you can invest.

See what Jason Zweig wrote, some extracts,

Finance professors Brad Barber and Terrance Odean have found that women's risk-adjusted returns beat those of men by an average of about one percentage point annually. In short, women trade less frequently, hold less volatile portfolios and expect lower returns than men do.

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Actually I can empathize with Mr Mason.

Many years ago, I had a chat with an Australian when I was in Australia. After warming up, he started to talk about rearing of Kiwi birds. He said that he had developed a rearing process that could make the kiwi birds reproduced like rabbits. I said what's the big deal about it. He then further educated me that kiwi birds are an endangered specie and if we could reproduce them in mass, we could in stage 1 at low reproduction rate, sold to the zoos worldwide at a premium price. If the reproduction was very successful, then we could introduce the kiwi birds as unique pets for the rich and famous. Lastly, if the reproduction was very very successful, we could sell the kiwi birds and the eggs to China as delicacies.
I was dumbfounded and quickly agreed that we should turn this into investment.
The aussie was delighted and he proposed that I should start to work on it when I was backed in Singapore. The first thing among all was to setup a website to sell the investment idea to like minded Singaporeans.
When I heard that, I was happy but slowly I realised that I had a problem. I only had a HDB flat and if I had to register a investment site domain name, then I had to use my flat's address. Wa lan eh, this is very sia suay!!! And If I let my IT savvy khakis found out, they will see me no up.
So, I reluctantly told my aussie friend this problem and due to the siasuayness that I might face, I had decided not to partner with him.
He was disappointed and I had never heard from him again.
Sigh, an investment opportunity was lost simply because I could not overcome my siasuayness.

If I had known Cyclone san earlier, I would not have faced this problem. He will teach me how to mask it.(Oops, am I teaching someone??)
And if this forum exists earlier, there are so many rich members here that probably will lend me a private property address to use since I have a good reputation of +2 here (much better than some past forum member called Dennis who was in the negative region).

My apologies for wasting your time if you find this post sucks.

After all these years of 'lost investment opportunity', any update on anyone making tons of $$ successfully selling kiwi birds as pets? Perhaps you ought to be thanking your lucky stars that you'd not ended up as the visible Front Man (Scape Goat) of an Alternative Investment gone wrong? For that, you may have to be grateful to your HDB flat for having saved you from both financial / reputation ruin? If so, don't ever sell your HDB flat!

BTW, I don't understand why you couldn't have asked your potential biz partner to use his Farm/Lab address when you register the domain address? It'd be cool when potential investors used Google Earth to check and see a Modernistic Farm cum Lab with thousands of kiwis in the background (gives extra credibility to your biz).

BTW-II, I don't think it's a good idea to mask your registered address. If I were a potential investor doing such a credibility search, it'd be an immediate red-flag to me..

PS. I also have 'fond' memories of 'The-One-With-Ten-Thousand-Posts' (can't call by real nick, like 'Voldemort' in Harry Porter).

[CityFarmer]

Let's me join the crowd with my opinion.

I concur with KopiKat that relevance is necessary in a discussion of investment's creditability.

IMO, The statement of "If you are a car salesman and you can't tolerate people kicking the tyres, then you are just a lousy salesman or the car that you are selling is lousy" is valid if kicking types means dig out all his investment track record, financial wellness etc.

Having said that, I am unlikely be an investor of the alternative investment. I am already hesitated to invest in S-Chips, which are binded with Listing Manual, under SGX's regulation and must operate for at least 5 years before listing (am i right?). I am not able to imagine that one day I will invest in an "un-regulated" alternative investment.

I hope i did not join the club of "wasting your time". If yes, my apologies

[Temperament]

Let's me join the crowd with my opinion.

I concur with KopiKat that relevance is necessary in a discussion of investment's creditability.

IMO, The statement of "If you are a car salesman and you can't tolerate people kicking the tyres, then you are just a lousy salesman or the car that you are selling is lousy" is valid if kicking types means dig out all his investment track record, financial wellness etc.

Having said that, I am unlikely be an investor of the alternative investment. I am already hesitated to invest in S-Chips, which are binded with Listing Manual, under SGX's regulation and must operate for at least 5 years before listing (am i right?). I am not able to imagine that one day I will invest in an "un-regulated" alternative investment.

I hope i did not join the club of "wasting your time". If yes, my apologies

I am thinking along your line. There are so many "better & safer" stocks in SGX or other markets, why bother. IMHO(No offence to anyone).

[Richard Mason]

Absolutely agree with all of the points you all have made. After all is said and done we all have our own investment plans and way of thinking, which is why the world is full of different people.

Either way if you think good or bad of the product I am personally here in Singapore and do not have an issue with meeting any of you to discuss further any information you should require.

Until we meet, keep up the informative blogging.

RM

[sgd]

A simple rule.
A good investment will almost NEVER come knocking at your door.
It'll be hidden where no one can see.
You'll have to find it.

Yes I agree with this 100%. If the business or asset is so good it will almost never need to have any investors, why does it need any investors if it can generate enough revenue to pay it's own way?

But once in a blue mood such opportunity does appear in distressed situations like family fueds where rich man pass away then his family and "extended" family start fighting over the assets.

[brattzz]

i think we can consider IPO-ing valuebuddies.com also...

it would be a greatx network to be in!

[Richard Mason]

@SGD, with that in mind will any of the group be allocating any FaceBook positions ?

[swakoo]

Are Retail Investors Getting Hustled on Facebook?

You've got to hand it to the guys at Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan who have been running the Facebook initial public offering.

They've orchestrated a nearly perfect IPO performance.
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... while the small fish may be churning the waters to get a bite at Facebook, the sharks are quietly hanging back.

Goldman Sachs had planned to sell around a quarter of its stake in the company. Now it aims to sell half. The hedge fund Tiger Global was aiming to sell 7 percent of its stake; now it is selling 50 percent. Accel Partners’ plans to sell rose from 22 percent to 28 percent. Venture capitalist Peter Thiel went from selling 20 percent of his shares to 50 percent.

... some of the biggest hedge-fund managers expressed skepticism about Facebook in private conversations.
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... when Goldman Sachs and the venture capitalists appear to be eager to significantly reduce their stakes in Facebook, you have to wonder: what do they know that the rest of us don’t?

[sgd]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/201...-investors

Looks familiar? Seems everybody knows this scam everywhere in the world first day of IPO everybody heading for the exit door no thanx lah

[Richard Mason]

Interesting review:

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-...are-2012-5