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@Arthur, point very well made and I thank you for the impartial objective. The address is a rented property where I lived upon my arrival in Singapore after my departure from Jakarta, Indonesia where I worked for CitiBank for 12 months in middle office operations.
I personally am very aware of the grey 'alternative investments' circulating not only in Singapore but globally which is why as a company we are very transparent with operations and always open to answering questions. Of course each and everyone of us is entitled to our own opinion, however it is best to have all facts and figures correct before we make public our thoughts and feelings.
Having said this, even when we have completed what we feel is satisfactory research and homework we must always be aware that risk is involved. Nothing in this life is Guaranteed, certainly not an investment as much as we would like it to be and anyone who claims it is a liar to themselves. One rule of thumb to work to is if you can not afford to lose it do not invest it.
Can someone clarify for me the Stamford riddle?
Cheers
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(16-05-2012, 12:10 AM)bb88 Wrote: (15-05-2012, 05:14 PM)yeokiwi Wrote: Domain Name.......... salisburyinvestments.com
Creation Date........ 2011-12-06
Registration Date.... 2011-12-06
Expiry Date.......... 2012-12-06
Organisation Name.... Salisbury Holdings
Organisation Address. 72 Lowland Road
Organisation Address. Kovan
Organisation Address. Singapore
Organisation Address. 547461
Organisation Address. None
Organisation Address. SINGAPORE
Semi-detached house. Nice!
https://maps.google.com.sg/maps?oe=utf-8...CB4Q8gEwAA
Got time can go your house collect annual report or brochures?
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rental property
(16-05-2012, 07:02 AM)yeokiwi Wrote: Rent a room at the semi-detached house and you can chat cattle everyday!
Confirm that you can have the latest cattle update everyday.
http://www.roomrental.com.sg/listings/ro...20223.aspx
@yeokiwi, your time may be better spent doing an ACRA search (if you wish to understand their biz better), instead of wasting your own and everybody's time on things that have no connection to this thread's discussion. From our point of view, if it does not add value to our day then our time is better spent on other threads.
However if you wish to persist in this manner, no one can stop you from looking further from,
1) Linkedin Profile
2) CitiBank Jakarta
Thank You!
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(16-05-2012, 09:36 PM)KopiKat Wrote: @yeokiwi, your time may be better spent doing an ACRA search (if you wish to understand their biz better), instead of wasting your own and everybody's time on things that have no connection to this thread's discussion. From our point of view, if it does not add value to our day then our time is better spent on other threads.
However if you wish to persist in this manner, no one can stop you from looking further from,
1) Linkedin Profile
2) CitiBank Jakarta
Thank You!
haha.. you think i so eng ah?
Anyway, he is not the first of the kind in this forum.
Neither will he be the last.
As for posting guidelines, I am quite sure I am within the guidelines.
All info obtained from public domain and does not even originate from me..haha.
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I am monitoring this thread closely.
So far, nothing much to say or add except "Caveat Emptor".
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(16-05-2012, 09:36 PM)KopiKat Wrote: (16-05-2012, 12:10 AM)bb88 Wrote: (15-05-2012, 05:14 PM)yeokiwi Wrote: Domain Name.......... salisburyinvestments.com
Creation Date........ 2011-12-06
Registration Date.... 2011-12-06
Expiry Date.......... 2012-12-06
Organisation Name.... Salisbury Holdings
Organisation Address. 72 Lowland Road
Organisation Address. Kovan
Organisation Address. Singapore
Organisation Address. 547461
Organisation Address. None
Organisation Address. SINGAPORE
Semi-detached house. Nice!
https://maps.google.com.sg/maps?oe=utf-8...CB4Q8gEwAA
Got time can go your house collect annual report or brochures?
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rental property
(16-05-2012, 07:02 AM)yeokiwi Wrote: Rent a room at the semi-detached house and you can chat cattle everyday!
Confirm that you can have the latest cattle update everyday.
http://www.roomrental.com.sg/listings/ro...20223.aspx
@yeokiwi, your time may be better spent doing an ACRA search (if you wish to understand their biz better), instead of wasting your own and everybody's time on things that have no connection to this thread's discussion. From our point of view, if it does not add value to our day then our time is better spent on other threads.
However if you wish to persist in this manner, no one can stop you from looking further from,
1) Linkedin Profile
2) CitiBank Jakarta
Thank You!
Talking about ACRA, there's something I ought to share. But, I know there's no connection to this thread's discussion and very likely, from all your point of view, it does not add value to your day and your time is better spent on other threads. Still, I just want to share, so bear with me a little while more..
Especially for listed companies with a majority shareholder cum CEO, sometimes, I worry about the financial health of the Holding Co. ie. the one that holds all the controlling shares of the listed entity. In some instances where the Hldg Co. is financially weak, some of their shares may be pledged as collateral and when the banks for whatever reasons, start calling back for their loans... the house of card may come tumbling down and somehow affects the listed entity in the worst case.
In such a case, in order to sleep better (cos' I'm vested), I'd do an ACRA search on the Hldg Co. The document that comes with financial statements cost $26 IIRC. So far, it's been money well spent as I not only sleep better but I may even get the confidence to vest more....
PS. Again, my sincere apologies for wasting all our time
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(16-05-2012, 11:22 PM)KopiKat Wrote: Talking about ACRA, there's something I ought to share. But, I know there's no connection to this thread's discussion and very likely, from all your point of view, it does not add value to your day and your time is better spent on other threads. Still, I just want to share, so bear with me a little while more..
Especially for listed companies with a majority shareholder cum CEO, sometimes, I worry about the financial health of the Holding Co. ie. the one that holds all the controlling shares of the listed entity. In some instances where the Hldg Co. is financially weak, some of their shares may be pledged as collateral and when the banks for whatever reasons, start calling back for their loans... the house of card may come tumbling down and somehow affects the listed entity in the worst case.
In such a case, in order to sleep better (cos' I'm vested), I'd do an ACRA search on the Hldg Co. The document that comes with financial statements cost $26 IIRC. So far, it's been money well spent as I not only sleep better but I may even get the confidence to vest more....
PS. Again, my sincere apologies for wasting all our time
In the spirit of the coming Facebook IPO...
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If you are a car salesman and you can't tolerate people kicking the tyres, then you are just a lousy salesman or the car that you are selling is lousy. Either way, you lose. Yeo-san has kindly shown us some ways to kick the tyres, something that an investor should do. And btw, a GENUINE investor's job is really about kicking tyres, not someone who blindly part his money in hope for a return! And definitely not to a lousy salesman.
My apologies too for wasting people's time....hahahahaha
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A simple rule.
A good investment will almost NEVER come knocking at your door.
It'll be hidden where no one can see.
You'll have to find it.
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it's just very scary to know that some random guy or company that we are talking about will pop up once in a while. and if they don't even say hello to us, we will never know that they are constantly monitoring us
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17-05-2012, 09:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 17-05-2012, 09:40 AM by yeokiwi.)
Actually I can empathize with Mr Mason.
Many years ago, I had a chat with an Australian when I was in Australia. After warming up, he started to talk about rearing of Kiwi birds. He said that he had developed a rearing process that could make the kiwi birds reproduced like rabbits. I said what's the big deal about it. He then further educated me that kiwi birds are an endangered specie and if we could reproduce them in mass, we could in stage 1 at low reproduction rate, sold to the zoos worldwide at a premium price. If the reproduction was very successful, then we could introduce the kiwi birds as unique pets for the rich and famous. Lastly, if the reproduction was very very successful, we could sell the kiwi birds and the eggs to China as delicacies.
I was dumbfounded and quickly agreed that we should turn this into investment.
The aussie was delighted and he proposed that I should start to work on it when I was backed in Singapore. The first thing among all was to setup a website to sell the investment idea to like minded Singaporeans.
When I heard that, I was happy but slowly I realised that I had a problem. I only had a HDB flat and if I had to register a investment site domain name, then I had to use my flat's address. Wa lan eh, this is very sia suay!!! And If I let my IT savvy khakis found out, they will see me no up.
So, I reluctantly told my aussie friend this problem and due to the siasuayness that I might face, I had decided not to partner with him.
He was disappointed and I had never heard from him again.
Sigh, an investment opportunity was lost simply because I could not overcome my siasuayness.
If I had known Cyclone san earlier, I would not have faced this problem. He will teach me how to mask it.(Oops, am I teaching someone??)
And if this forum exists earlier, there are so many rich members here that probably will lend me a private property address to use since I have a good reputation of +2 here (much better than some past forum member called Dennis who was in the negative region).
My apologies for wasting your time if you find this post sucks.
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