18-06-2015, 02:00 PM
Noble Group
18-06-2015, 02:01 PM
18-06-2015, 02:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 18-06-2015, 02:14 PM by specuvestor.)
(18-06-2015, 01:55 PM)greengiraffe Wrote:(18-06-2015, 10:35 AM)specuvestor Wrote:(18-06-2015, 02:49 AM)theasiareport Wrote:(18-06-2015, 01:00 AM)specuvestor Wrote:(17-06-2015, 03:34 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: You can read the full letter here. Yup neither OHL Webb or Dee are businessman that's why I lump them together. Activists or raider is a very thin line for the large players. Natsteel shareholders benefitted tremendously from OHL but I can't say he is philanthropic. Ditto Ackman or Icahn OTOH Charoen is hardly non opportunistic or non raider In general I agree businessman are better than financiers, if and only if their structure shares fruits with shareholders. And in general I think harsher penalties and more clauses for minority oppression redress is better than activist investing because these activists are the same financiers which you 2nd rate and looking at short term equity gains rather than business development like a businessman.
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19-06-2015, 09:27 AM
Keep buying back to support the share price to in instill investors confidence ? Believe investors are more interested to see how management is going to improve the business and bottom line.
“risk comes from not knowing what you’re doing.”
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19-06-2015, 11:11 AM
Suing a ten-years customer, to regain public trust? Oh...interesting...
Noble Group sues ex-China customer to block bid to wind up unit SINGAPORE (June 19): Noble Group, Asia’s biggest commodity trader, sued a former Chinese iron ore customer of ten-years standing to stop any attempts to shut a Singapore unit over an alleged debt of US$102,718 ($137,038). Noble Resources ( Financial Dashboard) International has been granted an interim injunction by the Singapore High Court preventing Rizhao Zhongrui Native Produce Co. from winding-up proceedings, and is pursuing separate claims against the firm, Noble said in a statement. A closed hearing is scheduled for June 25. The Chinese firm shouldn’t be allowed to harass and “assert undue commercial pressure” with the threat of action, Noble Resources’ global head of iron ore and special ores Timothy Gazzard said in court papers. Zhongrui said it suffered loss and reputational damage over poor quality iron ore it bought and that Noble was aggressive and unreasonable. Noble Resources’ “reputation and credibility would be in serious danger of being irreparably damaged,” if Zhongrui isn’t restrained from trying to wind it up, Gazzard said in the court papers. Zhongrui’s attempts may also trigger default provisions in banking and credit facilities, contracts with suppliers and customers and reflect negatively on parent Noble, he said. ... http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article...-wind-unit
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19-06-2015, 12:44 PM
Noble jialat liao lah, sounds like all the worms are really slowly coming out of the can.
If a ten year old customer has to go to court to try and recoup payment, it is very likely that Noble has been having liquidity problem internally to meet payments. Since its been going on since last year, it is very likely that Noble was badly hit by the commodity slump. The irony is that it is a China company coming after a Singaporean company and not the other way round. End-game is getting nearer. There might be more creditors coming after Noble soon. "when it rains, it pours..."
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24-06-2015, 03:15 PM
The latest update on the saga...
Noble Group rises on buyback and China shareholder’s support SINGAPORE (June 24): Noble Group ( Financial Dashboard) rose after the company bought more stock and its second-largest shareholder, China’s sovereign wealth fund, voiced support for the company for the first time in the wake of criticism of its accounting practices. “As a major shareholder of Noble Group, we will continue to support its business,” Xie Ping, executive vice president of China Investment Corp., said in a Noble Group statement announcing the appointment of a new director. ... http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article...9s-support
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24-06-2015, 04:36 PM
(24-06-2015, 03:15 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The latest update on the saga... They are in the same boat , not a surprise !
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25-06-2015, 10:34 AM
The share-buy-back continue. A slightly below 2% of outstanding shares was bought to-date, base on the latest disclosure on 25 Jun 2015. More than $90 million was spent on the share-buy-back to-date, IIRC
(not vested)
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07-07-2015, 09:29 AM
One more initiative to restore confidence, beside the share-buy-back. The latest update shows the treasury share is slightly more than 2% of outstanding shares.
Noble Group appoints PwC to review its mark-to-market models and valuations. http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article...valuations (not vested)
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