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Capitaland
30-11-2012, 09:39 AM.
Post: #31
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Capitaland can't let others get the land and sell cheaper than Sky Habitat. Capitaland would lose big.

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30-11-2012, 09:46 AM.
Post: #32
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by historical measure, selling price of 1650-1700 psf is certainly not cheap for a 99 yr project. Recently i recalled reading hobee's trilight sold around this price 1600-1900psf but trilight is at newton area and also near newton mrt and is a freehold project.

Would the rich still be willing to pay for such a steep price for the bishan projects by capitaland? Suburban upgraders are quite unlikely to upgrade to skyhabitat; price is just too steep and they most likely cant afford it anyway. The rich are certainly smart enough to go for freehold projects. My thoughts are that mostly 'flippers' will buy skyhabitat

View through a conspiracy lens, some property developers appear to assist the govt to price local land at a higher price -> i am quite certain the intention is to make housing more 'affordable'

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30-11-2012, 09:55 AM. (This post was last modified: 30-11-2012, 09:56 AM by WolfT.)
Post: #33
RE: Capitaland Limited
(30-11-2012, 09:46 AM)money Wrote: by historical measure, selling price of 1650-1700 psf is certainly not cheap for a 99 yr project. Recently i recalled reading hobee's trilight sold around this price 1600-1900psf but trilight is at newton area and also near newton mrt and is a freehold project.

Would the rich still be willing to pay for such a steep price for the bishan projects by capitaland? Suburban upgraders are quite unlikely to upgrade to skyhabitat; price is just too steep and they most likely cant afford it anyway. The rich are certainly smart enough to go for freehold projects. My thoughts are that mostly 'flippers' will buy skyhabitat

View through a conspiracy lens, some property developers appear to assist the govt to price local land at a higher price -> i am quite certain the intention is to make housing more 'affordable'

You see, thats why they are selling unique 'design'...like limited designer bag!
Sometime between Mrt stations also need to see whether e mrt is an interchange(>2 line) plus bus interchange.
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30-11-2012, 10:16 AM.
Post: #34
RE: Capitaland Limited
(30-11-2012, 09:55 AM)WolfT Wrote:
(30-11-2012, 09:46 AM)money Wrote: by historical measure, selling price of 1650-1700 psf is certainly not cheap for a 99 yr project. Recently i recalled reading hobee's trilight sold around this price 1600-1900psf but trilight is at newton area and also near newton mrt and is a freehold project.

Would the rich still be willing to pay for such a steep price for the bishan projects by capitaland? Suburban upgraders are quite unlikely to upgrade to skyhabitat; price is just too steep and they most likely cant afford it anyway. The rich are certainly smart enough to go for freehold projects. My thoughts are that mostly 'flippers' will buy skyhabitat

View through a conspiracy lens, some property developers appear to assist the govt to price local land at a higher price -> i am quite certain the intention is to make housing more 'affordable'

You see, thats why they are selling unique 'design'...like limited designer bag!
Sometime between Mrt stations also need to see whether e mrt is an interchange(>2 line) plus bus interchange.

well, maybe you are right, it is just like how some people are willing to pay for branded goods, watches, tailored-made clothes, tiffany jewellwry etc. There will also be a market for such luxury, hopefully the market is large enough though

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30-11-2012, 11:22 AM. (This post was last modified: 30-11-2012, 11:52 AM by ValueBeliever.)
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Capital land is trying to show the market that they are very confident of maintaining price stability - its got the ear and eye on the policy and the market reach of their prime customer. All other developers does not have this capability nor connection. I hope they are right.

our bubble economy aided and prop up by a flawed immigration policy of stifling real wages in place of a rosy growth with foreign money parked here. So long as everybody is making money, no one will complain about high rental, etc.

This is in some way similar to the Spanish economy. When things are rosy, the Spanish import all kinds of foreign labours and talent into their country to drive the growth primarily in the property sector, but once things sour the first to give up the housing is actually the foreigners with the big capital gain, they easily sell out first, then followed by local which cant possibly go any where. Their properties were all underwater and the economy sink, banking crisis that cannot recover.

I guess in Spore context, mostly paid way above loan quantum so there is no way to foreclose unless the inflation becomes depression. which is almost impossible? The way things are going, properties is the most solid investment!!

The last I spoke to most of my friends they are all buying property using second bank loan on studio unit to fight against inflation and its for their children. All believe inflation will be higher due to high land price, raw matl price and labour cost. They all believe it is easy to rent out. Most paid 1600 - 1700 range and around 1mil unit.

Guess nobody can go wrong following the trend. Now agent are telling customers that there are real value in older estate and so the market cycle just keep driving it higher and higher! Its going to make lots of haves very rich and the have-not ever more fearful. Those that had brave the doom scenario in any crisis are those that benefit most, buying 4-5 properties can never go wrong!!

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30-11-2012, 12:10 PM.
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(30-11-2012, 11:22 AM)ValueBeliever Wrote: The last I spoke to most of my friends they are all buying property using second bank loan on studio unit to fight against inflation and its for their children. All believe inflation will be higher due to high land price, raw matl price and labour cost. They all believe it is easy to rent out. Most paid 1600 - 1700 range and around 1mil unit.

I am also seeing this trend. I know of 4 married couples who have investment property, and one single friend just bought one just last month. Not sure how much they paid psf but the reasons are the same - rent out for passive income to beat inflation, while owning an asset which will eventually appreciate.

Makes me feel like I am completely missing this "party". Haha....
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30-11-2012, 12:13 PM.
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(30-11-2012, 11:22 AM)ValueBeliever Wrote: Capital land is trying to show the market that they are very confident of maintaining price stability - its got the ear and eye on the policy and the market reach of their prime customer. All other developers does not have this capability nor connection. I hope they are right.

our bubble economy aided and prop up by a flawed immigration policy of stifling real wages in place of a rosy growth with foreign money parked here. So long as everybody is making money, no one will complain about high rental, etc.

This is in some way similar to the Spanish economy. When things are rosy, the Spanish import all kinds of foreign labours and talent into their country to drive the growth primarily in the property sector, but once things sour the first to give up the housing is actually the foreigners with the big capital gain, they easily sell out first, then followed by local which cant possibly go any where. Their properties were all underwater and the economy sink, banking crisis that cannot recover.

I guess in Spore context, mostly paid way above loan quantum so there is no way to foreclose unless the inflation becomes depression. which is almost impossible? The way things are going, properties is the most solid investment!!

The last I spoke to most of my friends they are all buying property using second bank loan on studio unit to fight against inflation and its for their children. All believe inflation will be higher due to high land price, raw matl price and labour cost. They all believe it is easy to rent out. Most paid 1600 - 1700 range and around 1mil unit.

Guess nobody can go wrong following the trend. Now agent are telling customers that there are real value in older estate and so the market cycle just keep driving it higher and higher! Its going to make lots of haves very rich and the have-not ever more fearful. Those that had brave the doom scenario in any crisis are those that benefit most, buying 4-5 properties can never go wrong!!

I thought spain go broke because they spend too much money buying football club and lottory ? Big Grin
Well in my imo, singapore housing mkt is different from spain. Sg is more resilience because of its limited land and govt policy. It will most pro be an correction and not a Crash like spain.Unless ....something like earthquake or war happen!
Well ...i am selling my capitaland now and will buy back upon pull back!This is like the 10th time i am doing this! The return is better than the rest of my div stocks.
2012 Huat ar!!!Cool
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30-11-2012, 02:27 PM.
Post: #38
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(30-11-2012, 12:13 PM)WolfT Wrote:
(30-11-2012, 11:22 AM)ValueBeliever Wrote: Capital land is trying to show the market that they are very confident of maintaining price stability - its got the ear and eye on the policy and the market reach of their prime customer. All other developers does not have this capability nor connection. I hope they are right.

our bubble economy aided and prop up by a flawed immigration policy of stifling real wages in place of a rosy growth with foreign money parked here. So long as everybody is making money, no one will complain about high rental, etc.

This is in some way similar to the Spanish economy. When things are rosy, the Spanish import all kinds of foreign labours and talent into their country to drive the growth primarily in the property sector, but once things sour the first to give up the housing is actually the foreigners with the big capital gain, they easily sell out first, then followed by local which cant possibly go any where. Their properties were all underwater and the economy sink, banking crisis that cannot recover.

I guess in Spore context, mostly paid way above loan quantum so there is no way to foreclose unless the inflation becomes depression. which is almost impossible? The way things are going, properties is the most solid investment!!

The last I spoke to most of my friends they are all buying property using second bank loan on studio unit to fight against inflation and its for their children. All believe inflation will be higher due to high land price, raw matl price and labour cost. They all believe it is easy to rent out. Most paid 1600 - 1700 range and around 1mil unit.

Guess nobody can go wrong following the trend. Now agent are telling customers that there are real value in older estate and so the market cycle just keep driving it higher and higher! Its going to make lots of haves very rich and the have-not ever more fearful. Those that had brave the doom scenario in any crisis are those that benefit most, buying 4-5 properties can never go wrong!!

I thought spain go broke because they spend too much money buying football club and lottory ? Big Grin
Well in my imo, singapore housing mkt is different from spain. Sg is more resilience because of its limited land and govt policy. It will most pro be an correction and not a Crash like spain.Unless ....something like earthquake or war happen!
Well ...i am selling my capitaland now and will buy back upon pull back!This is like the 10th time i am doing this! The return is better than the rest of my div stocks.
2012 Huat ar!!!Cool

Congrats! Yr investment method through equity is way safer than buying the real estate itself, cos at the very least you do not leverage

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02-12-2012, 02:43 PM.
Post: #39
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I thought spain go broke because they spend too much money buying football club and lottory ? Big Grin
Well in my imo, singapore housing mkt is different from spain. Sg is more resilience because of its limited land and govt policy. It will most pro be an correction and not a Crash like spain.Unless ....something like earthquake or war happen!
Well ...i am selling my capitaland now and will buy back upon pull back!This is like the 10th time i am doing this! The return is better than the rest of my div stocks.
2012 Huat ar!!!Cool
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That sounds like you have a good set of entry and exit price levels for trading the shares and which enable you to capture the profits . How did you set your entry & exit prices ?

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02-12-2012, 04:04 PM. (This post was last modified: 02-12-2012, 04:26 PM by WolfT.)
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(02-12-2012, 02:43 PM)soros Wrote: I thought spain go broke because they spend too much money buying football club and lottory ? Big Grin
Well in my imo, singapore housing mkt is different from spain. Sg is more resilience because of its limited land and govt policy. It will most pro be an correction and not a Crash like spain.Unless ....something like earthquake or war happen!
Well ...i am selling my capitaland now and will buy back upon pull back!This is like the 10th time i am doing this! The return is better than the rest of my div stocks.
2012 Huat ar!!!Cool

That sounds like you have a good set of entry and exit price levels for trading the shares and which enable you to capture the profits . How did you set your entry & exit prices ?
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No one can capture the best price but i would sell whenever it hits 1yr high( not 52 wk but period high)then buy back during the upswing. This only works for stocks like capitaland where the long term view is bullish.
What if it never drops after i sold, well..i wait for the next upswing then buy back. Yes i am speculating and this also depend on luck that why i say this yr huat!
There are more hits than misses using this method.
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