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is it appropriate to exclude the developmental properties when looking at current asset for such counter??
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16-09-2012, 08:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-09-2012, 08:37 PM by mysterion.)
The question is how easily convertible are these developmental properties to cash when the need for cash arises.
I'm a newbie in property analysis but from a layman perspective, I would consider developmental properties as something that may or may not be able to be sold within a short time period. In fact, standard inventory in a consumers product company would seem more readily convertible to cash. As such, I believe it is prudent to understand quickly how these properties can be sold for cash with minimal discounts to its fair value (at least historically) before investors can determine its state of financial health.
Just to clarify, I'm not really excluding the value of developmental properties from the net asset value but rather questioning how "current" this asset really is.
Hopefully there can be some meaningful and in-depth discussion here in terms of the fundamental strengths and weaknesses.
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By excluding/heavily discounting away the development properties is IMO too harsh a conservative approach to adopt. By doing so, you are effectively removing the core business of a property developer.
My suggestion is to do a present value of the various property projects instead.
If project A will be launched in 2 years time, we can probably apply a conservative 3 to 4 years discount (to reach 100% sold) and map out the present value of the property worth. By doing such, it will provide a better estimation gauge. if we simply calculate the net net without readjusting its NAV, then every property counter will not be worth an investment.
Just my 2 cents.
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mysterion:
I see. Nonetheless, a time discount can adjust for the risk. For instance, one may wish to apply a 5 years discount if the project seems hard to sell.
propertyinvestor:
By discounting, I meant discounting the readjusted value of the development properties.
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But how would one apply a time discount to the value of each individual property if the company does not release segmented valuation for each of its developmental properties. For Heeton, there are four developmental properties which are valued at cost (which includes cost of land + interest capitalised + development costs + recognised profit/loss - progress billings). However, all of these variables are consolidated into one and there isn't any breakdown in their latest annual report, which makes it near impossible to apply a time-discount to partially completed properties.
Any idea how to obtain such a breakdown??? Will emailing their IR work??? Or must I actually get my hands dirty and try to estimate their individual valuations based on their gross floor area and their respective average prices??? :S
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pay attention to its associates. those associates might not be well funded.
last time, I tracked KSH, which has a lot of joint ventures with heeton. I got scared when they kept creating more and more joint ventures which surely not well funded as there is little equity in those joint ventures.
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mysterion:
Normally, you can get a breakdown of their property portfolio either in their annual report or their website
You can obtain their land purchase price + development cost (if any) from their SGX announcements. If it's too far back, you may wish to check their company website for an older archive.
You can apply an estimated construction cost + selling/marketing cost figure - thereafter, you will be able to obtain an implied GPM for the particular project.
It's not the full picture yet. Several adjustment still needs to be made. This is where you adjust for % of property which has been sold and recognized in P&L and also adjust/discount for probability of properties not being sold out.
Of course, you can't get the exact full number. It's just an estimate but the variable of cost, discount rate & % sold can allow you to apply some sensitivity test to see how rnav changes when the properties are being sold off.