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(24-05-2014, 07:56 PM)chialc88 Wrote:
(24-05-2014, 07:27 PM)jianjian Wrote: Haven really read into thaibev, jus curious how come all the wooha n rioting in thailand doesnt affect the stock price ar?

Any affects on the biz fundamental?
JJ,
One possibility is the stock market is a super bull(in general).
No amount of bad news can slow it down.
Very contradict right?
Just look at the number of bad news in Straits Time and see whether it's imaginary or real?

Nobody can tell but you have to think hard.

The question is not what if you are right but what if you are wrong.

what's your exit plan? What's your backup plan if your exit plan failed? what's your backup of your backup plan?


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The best backup-plan i think should be no back-up plan.
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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T,
Blow my mind!
Still couldn't believe that you practice this thou.

你老兄道行有多高?
佩服,佩服!
五体投地。
叹为观止。


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(24-05-2014, 08:56 PM)chialc88 Wrote: T,
Blow my mind!
Still couldn't believe that you practice this thou.

你老兄道行有多高?
佩服,佩服!
五体投地。
叹为观止。


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i say i think means my ideal only. If you don't have any back-out means money in the stock market is just money in the stock market.
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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haha! 看来我们真的需要多多沟通。


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I still think the best back-up plan is come what may you don't need a back-up plan in the stock market. i.e. you have deep enough pockets and asset allocation to see that your cash flow will not be blocked even when the market crashes by a "Black Swan".
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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The final happening of the F&N saga for the company, share swap or other means of divestment?

Broker's take: ThaiBev gains as DBS Group Research raises target price
11 Sep 2014 10:33
SHARES of Thai Beverage gained on Thursday, with DBS Group Research recently raising its target price for the stock.

"Despite a solid year-to-date share price performance, we expect further upside," said DBS in a report on Wednesday, raising its target price for the stock to 80 Singapore cents from 68 Singapore cents. It kept its "buy" rating.

DBS noted that the long-term plan for ThaiBev is to focus on being a top F&B (food and beverage) player.

"The eventual disposal of Frasers Centrepoint, in our view, is likely."

Assuming a monetisation of its Frasers Centrepoint stake - worth about S$1.4 billion now - the brokerage estimates that this will further lower ThaiBev's net gearing to 0.2 times, to the level before it bought its F&N stake, and from a high of 1.2 times as at end-FY2012.
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Source: Business Times Breaking News
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^^ TCC-FNN-TB brokers best friend. All of them want to suck up to Towkay for the potential fees.


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Frankly, this analyst is no class.

Thai Bev looking to sell FCL... we all know about it... who is the buyer and at what price...

So far Charoen has been armed with blank cheques... will he shoot himself at his own foot...

Got to be more creative than that...

Analysts are dumb... seriously dumb...

Will be interesting to see how the unwinding unfold...

Vested in All
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(11-09-2014, 04:13 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The final happening of the F&N saga for the company, share swap or other means of divestment?

Broker's take: ThaiBev gains as DBS Group Research raises target price
11 Sep 2014 10:33
SHARES of Thai Beverage gained on Thursday, with DBS Group Research recently raising its target price for the stock.

"Despite a solid year-to-date share price performance, we expect further upside," said DBS in a report on Wednesday, raising its target price for the stock to 80 Singapore cents from 68 Singapore cents. It kept its "buy" rating.

DBS noted that the long-term plan for ThaiBev is to focus on being a top F&B (food and beverage) player.

"The eventual disposal of Frasers Centrepoint, in our view, is likely."

Assuming a monetisation of its Frasers Centrepoint stake - worth about S$1.4 billion now - the brokerage estimates that this will further lower ThaiBev's net gearing to 0.2 times, to the level before it bought its F&N stake, and from a high of 1.2 times as at end-FY2012.
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Source: Business Times Breaking News
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http://steinsandglassware.com/updates/be...eculation/

Beer Stocks Rise on M&A Speculation

Posted by Beer News at September 16th, 2014

Shares of beer companies gained momentum yesterday as a new wave of consolidation in brewing industry is being speculated across the market. As per this recent rumor, the world’s largest brewing company, Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV (BUD), aka AB InBev, is looking for finances to buy the world’s number 2 brewing company, SABMiller plc (SBMRY).

According to the sources of The Wall Street Journal, the first to report this revolutionary news, the companies have not indulged in any formal merger or acquisition discussions.

The recent development has moved the shares of some beer juggernauts’ higher. Yesterday, shares of SABMiller gained the most, registering an 8.5% rise. This was followed by 5.9%, 3.2% and 1.5% rise in the share prices of Molson Coors Brewing Company (TAP), AB InBev and Heineken NV (HEINY), respectively.

Prior to this, Bloomberg, on last Sunday, reported that SABMiller approached Heineken with a buyout offer which was rejected by the later. It is believed that the acquisition offer made by SABMiller was to defend itself from AB InBev’s takeover bid.

If SABMiller had succeeded in acquiring Heineken, its market share in the global beer industry would have increased to 18.9% from 9.6%. According to The Wall Street Journal, AB InBev being the world’s largest brewer has a global market share of 20.6% in the beer industry followed by SABMiller and Heineken with a 9.6% and 9.3% market share, respectively.

However, we believe that acquiring SABMiller will not be an easy task for AB InBev due to some antitrust regulations. We are also of the opinion that the acquisition will reduce competition and thereby hurt consumers as the company will have more power in terms of setting prices. Therefore, if the company decides to opt for this acquisition, the antitrust regulators may compel it to divest some of its brands.

We have noticed that the alcoholic beverage industry has been witnessing major consolidation in recent times. All the companies are taking utmost efforts to increase their share in this matured U.S. beer market and in Western Europe either through merger & acquisition or by expanding into new regions.

Some important acquisitions made in 2014 include the buyout of Beam Inc. in January by Japanese beverage company, Suntory Holdings Ltd., for a sum of $16 billion. Subsequently, AB InBev, in order to strengthen its position in the Asia-Pacific region, reacquired its South Korean asset – Oriental Brewery – for a sum of $5.8 billion from KKR and Affinity Equity Partners.

We expect the consolidation trend that has spread across the beer industry to continue as this will not only facilitate the companies in increasing their market share but will also help in reducing costs through leverage from suppliers and distributors.

Further, presence of large amounts of cash on corporate balance sheets, favorable credit markets, low interest rates, and strength in the stock market have also boosted confidence of the companies.

Moreover, looking at the share movement of both the buyer and seller companies, we believe that shareholders extend full support to big acquisitions so that the companies can beef up their market presence amid rampant consolidation.

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