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Further extract from the same website as the above.
Again, I have highlighted a para to highlight an important point.
I will just stop here. No point talking further.
tks.
************
I must elaborate the teachings and interpretations are definately known in Buddhism whilst aiming for the goal of relieving one of their sins from past lives to achieve happiness and ending the cycle suffering and rebirth if one chooses to.
Tibetan or Vajrayana Buddhism for one emphasises the spiritual and physical well being of the practitioner. Through practicing spiritual, the person is able to better understand the cosmos and world around them. If one who does not bother go into the distance to seek the truth then they will forever remain as a toad living in a well. 超度 or reciting chants for dead is not only a Buddhist but also a Taoist and present in alot religions but expressed differently. The idea is the same and believes in that good deeds can eliminate sin which affects our spiritual body. A person with alot of positive energy will be healthy.
Why would the heavenly way be more invincible than the Buddha's realm is beyond me since they two completely different concepts. The perception of one being superior will not you allow you to escape the cycle of rebirth and suffering since you have been trapped in the realm of form if not the desire realm. The Buddha clearly states that they will manifest in many forms such as Guan Shi Yin Pu Sa through 32 manifestations.
三十二应分类 32 manifestations
1.(一)佛身应，若见诸菩萨入三摩地，进修无漏，胜解现圆时，则于彼前应现佛身，而为说法。
观音菩萨三十二应身
观音菩萨三十二应身
(二)菩萨应，若诸有学寂静妙明，胜妙现圆，则于彼前应现菩萨身，而为说法。
(三)缘觉应，已断十二因缘者，缘断胜性，胜妙现圆，即于彼前应现缘觉身，而为说法。
(四)声闻应，得四谛空者，修道入灭，胜性现圆，则于彼前应现声闻身，而为说法。
(五)梵王应，若诸众生，欲心明悟，不犯欲尘，欲身清净，则应现梵王身，而为说法。
(六)帝释应，若诸众生欲为天王，统领诸天，则应现帝释身，而为说法，令彼成就。
(七)自在天应，欲界第五天，若诸众生欲身自在、游行十方，即于彼前应现此身，而为说法。
(八)大自在天应，若诸众生欲身自在、飞行虚空，则现此身，而为说法，令其成就。
(九) 天大将军应，若诸众生爱统鬼神、救护国土，即现此身而为说法。
(十)四天王应，若诸众生爱统世界、保护众生，即于彼前现此身，而为说法。
(十一)四天王太子应，若诸众生爱生天宫，驱使鬼神，则于彼前现此身，而为说法。
(十二)人王应，若诸众生，乐为人王，菩萨即于彼前，应现此身而为说法。
(十三)长者应，若诸众生爱为族长，受人尊重，即应现此身，而为说法。
(十四)居士应，若诸众生爱谈名言，清净自居，即应现此身，而为说法。
(十五)宰官应，若诸众生爱治国土、管理邦邑，即应现此身，而为说法令彼成就。
(十六)婆罗门应，若诸众生爱诸数术，摄卫自居，则应现此身，而为说法。
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
(十七)比丘应，若有男子好学出家，持诸戒律，即于彼前应现此身，而为说法。
(十八)比丘尼应，若有女人好学出家，持诸禁戒，即于彼前，应现此身，而为说法。
(十九)优婆塞应，若有男子乐持五戒，即应现此身，而为说法。
(二十)优婆夷应，若有女人，五戒自居，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿一)女主应，女主即皇后、王后。若有女人，内政立身以修家国，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿二)童男应，若有众生不坏男根，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿三)童女应，若有处女爱乐处身，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿四)天应，若有诸天乐出天伦，则应现天身，而为说法。
(廿五)龙应，若有诸龙乐出龙伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿六)夜叉应，若有夜叉乐度本伦，即现此身，而为说法。
(廿七)乾闼婆应，若有乾闼婆乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
(廿八)阿修罗应，若阿修罗乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿九)紧那罗应，若紧那罗，乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(卅)摩呼罗伽应，若摩呼罗伽，乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(卅一)人应，若诸众生爱乐人身，修人之行，即现人身，而为说法。
(卅二)非人应，非人即鬼畜之类。若诸非人有形、无形，有想、无想，乐度其伦，则于彼前应现其身，而为说法，令彼解脱。
菩萨在原文中为“独觉”，夜叉在原文中为“药叉”。此三十二应系菩萨以三昧闻薰、闻修、无作之妙力所得之自在成就。与《法华经·普门品》所说之三十三身大同小
26 Mar `14, 9:09AM
Buddhism has been propagated for more than 2500 years and Mahayana and Tibetan Buddhism have been inherited and developed for more than a thousand years. Every sutra and mantra consists of profound meanings and teachings to relieve the sufferings of sentient beings and such teachings should not be altered by any lay person.
Buddhism is a cosmic religion transcending time and space. Heavenly gods or devas practice Buddhism as well from the Asura realm all the way up to the Pure Lands. By merely relating 2500 years of current buddhist teachings to billions if not to the infinite kalpas gone by is unduly. The human understanding of religion based on mundane insight is not enough understand the complete wisdom.
I say this as it is known that people born as westerners are capable of greater compassion such as humanitarism and charitable generous than the average Chinese regardless of religion. Western society is based on using previous knowledge and precedence to set fourth a better civilisation. Many Chinese know if of merit and good deeds and may become misguided by doing such they will be rewarded in end. Though doing good deeds is may allow one to gain positive karma, it may not necessarily come from the inner heart of the person. For example, people and organisations whom have set to free animals from suffering in captivity or exploitation or the even simply implementing more humane methods of slaughtering animals ( please understand how animals are treated prior to slaughter and how they used for human purposes) may infact let them earn many times greater merit than a practitioner whos stays at a temple and only relating with commoners. Though i must say that western society in general leans closer to the first dhyana (初禅天) and below and thus extremely pleasurable and successful in humanly terms. How many successful scientists have been created based on the traditional methods of Chinese thinking? Would a buddhist monk in fact be as well rounded as Albert Einstein or Galileo Galilei whom used human innovation and creativity to explore the skies and prove that the world was infact not round and that many planets existed just like our own? Would these great scientists even be able to rival or expand on what traditional buddhists are able to believe and look beyond the books? Is understanding the self as hard understanding quantum mechanics or even mathematical theory?
We must combine heavenly qualities in our earthly bodies if we are to ever understand Buddhism like the great Masters now and before us. I can assure you that even reaching the first heaven after death is difficult and is reserved for extremely kind and generous. How can you reach the Pure Land if you can not even reach the first heaven closest to Earth? The Buddha taught us that the human realm is superior to escaping the cycle of rebirth and suffering compared to cultivating in a Pure Land for a reason let alone being the only realm for reaching Buddha hood.
If Buddhists are so fast to condemn the teachings of others without looking at themselves asking whether they have escaped suffering and illness then it is perhaps themselves whom have not cultivated enough. If you cannot save yourself, then why should you complain and stop other people from being saved?
I will emphasise again that what the Shakyamuni Buddha taught transcended alot of what was circulated at the time and human civilisation was in its beginning again. He used his empirical observation to show us what we know today. Modern people today will not believe in Gods or ghosts or even the afterlife but however as Buddhists, we do. We believe in such because it may be due to culture, religion or even paranormal experiences but how much of know is the complete truth? We can not answer this because we are human just like the observable universe we see through our telescopes may be as small of 4% of the total universe.
The texts have not been altered in anyway and any combination of mantras revealed by Guan Yin Pu Sa definately will be effective yet the timing of the revelation will definately be a result of the proper timing or karma of our times.
Again, I have highlighted a para to highlight an important point.
I will just stop here. No point talking further.
tks.
************
I must elaborate the teachings and interpretations are definately known in Buddhism whilst aiming for the goal of relieving one of their sins from past lives to achieve happiness and ending the cycle suffering and rebirth if one chooses to.
Tibetan or Vajrayana Buddhism for one emphasises the spiritual and physical well being of the practitioner. Through practicing spiritual, the person is able to better understand the cosmos and world around them. If one who does not bother go into the distance to seek the truth then they will forever remain as a toad living in a well. 超度 or reciting chants for dead is not only a Buddhist but also a Taoist and present in alot religions but expressed differently. The idea is the same and believes in that good deeds can eliminate sin which affects our spiritual body. A person with alot of positive energy will be healthy.
Why would the heavenly way be more invincible than the Buddha's realm is beyond me since they two completely different concepts. The perception of one being superior will not you allow you to escape the cycle of rebirth and suffering since you have been trapped in the realm of form if not the desire realm. The Buddha clearly states that they will manifest in many forms such as Guan Shi Yin Pu Sa through 32 manifestations.
三十二应分类 32 manifestations
1.(一)佛身应，若见诸菩萨入三摩地，进修无漏，胜解现圆时，则于彼前应现佛身，而为说法。
观音菩萨三十二应身
观音菩萨三十二应身
(二)菩萨应，若诸有学寂静妙明，胜妙现圆，则于彼前应现菩萨身，而为说法。
(三)缘觉应，已断十二因缘者，缘断胜性，胜妙现圆，即于彼前应现缘觉身，而为说法。
(四)声闻应，得四谛空者，修道入灭，胜性现圆，则于彼前应现声闻身，而为说法。
(五)梵王应，若诸众生，欲心明悟，不犯欲尘，欲身清净，则应现梵王身，而为说法。
(六)帝释应，若诸众生欲为天王，统领诸天，则应现帝释身，而为说法，令彼成就。
(七)自在天应，欲界第五天，若诸众生欲身自在、游行十方，即于彼前应现此身，而为说法。
(八)大自在天应，若诸众生欲身自在、飞行虚空，则现此身，而为说法，令其成就。
(九) 天大将军应，若诸众生爱统鬼神、救护国土，即现此身而为说法。
(十)四天王应，若诸众生爱统世界、保护众生，即于彼前现此身，而为说法。
(十一)四天王太子应，若诸众生爱生天宫，驱使鬼神，则于彼前现此身，而为说法。
(十二)人王应，若诸众生，乐为人王，菩萨即于彼前，应现此身而为说法。
(十三)长者应，若诸众生爱为族长，受人尊重，即应现此身，而为说法。
(十四)居士应，若诸众生爱谈名言，清净自居，即应现此身，而为说法。
(十五)宰官应，若诸众生爱治国土、管理邦邑，即应现此身，而为说法令彼成就。
(十六)婆罗门应，若诸众生爱诸数术，摄卫自居，则应现此身，而为说法。
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
(十七)比丘应，若有男子好学出家，持诸戒律，即于彼前应现此身，而为说法。
(十八)比丘尼应，若有女人好学出家，持诸禁戒，即于彼前，应现此身，而为说法。
(十九)优婆塞应，若有男子乐持五戒，即应现此身，而为说法。
(二十)优婆夷应，若有女人，五戒自居，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿一)女主应，女主即皇后、王后。若有女人，内政立身以修家国，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿二)童男应，若有众生不坏男根，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿三)童女应，若有处女爱乐处身，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿四)天应，若有诸天乐出天伦，则应现天身，而为说法。
(廿五)龙应，若有诸龙乐出龙伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿六)夜叉应，若有夜叉乐度本伦，即现此身，而为说法。
(廿七)乾闼婆应，若有乾闼婆乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
罗江县观音岩观音三十二应浮雕
(廿八)阿修罗应，若阿修罗乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(廿九)紧那罗应，若紧那罗，乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(卅)摩呼罗伽应，若摩呼罗伽，乐脱其伦，即应现此身，而为说法。
(卅一)人应，若诸众生爱乐人身，修人之行，即现人身，而为说法。
(卅二)非人应，非人即鬼畜之类。若诸非人有形、无形，有想、无想，乐度其伦，则于彼前应现其身，而为说法，令彼解脱。
菩萨在原文中为“独觉”，夜叉在原文中为“药叉”。此三十二应系菩萨以三昧闻薰、闻修、无作之妙力所得之自在成就。与《法华经·普门品》所说之三十三身大同小
26 Mar `14, 9:09AM
Buddhism has been propagated for more than 2500 years and Mahayana and Tibetan Buddhism have been inherited and developed for more than a thousand years. Every sutra and mantra consists of profound meanings and teachings to relieve the sufferings of sentient beings and such teachings should not be altered by any lay person.
Buddhism is a cosmic religion transcending time and space. Heavenly gods or devas practice Buddhism as well from the Asura realm all the way up to the Pure Lands. By merely relating 2500 years of current buddhist teachings to billions if not to the infinite kalpas gone by is unduly. The human understanding of religion based on mundane insight is not enough understand the complete wisdom.
I say this as it is known that people born as westerners are capable of greater compassion such as humanitarism and charitable generous than the average Chinese regardless of religion. Western society is based on using previous knowledge and precedence to set fourth a better civilisation. Many Chinese know if of merit and good deeds and may become misguided by doing such they will be rewarded in end. Though doing good deeds is may allow one to gain positive karma, it may not necessarily come from the inner heart of the person. For example, people and organisations whom have set to free animals from suffering in captivity or exploitation or the even simply implementing more humane methods of slaughtering animals ( please understand how animals are treated prior to slaughter and how they used for human purposes) may infact let them earn many times greater merit than a practitioner whos stays at a temple and only relating with commoners. Though i must say that western society in general leans closer to the first dhyana (初禅天) and below and thus extremely pleasurable and successful in humanly terms. How many successful scientists have been created based on the traditional methods of Chinese thinking? Would a buddhist monk in fact be as well rounded as Albert Einstein or Galileo Galilei whom used human innovation and creativity to explore the skies and prove that the world was infact not round and that many planets existed just like our own? Would these great scientists even be able to rival or expand on what traditional buddhists are able to believe and look beyond the books? Is understanding the self as hard understanding quantum mechanics or even mathematical theory?
We must combine heavenly qualities in our earthly bodies if we are to ever understand Buddhism like the great Masters now and before us. I can assure you that even reaching the first heaven after death is difficult and is reserved for extremely kind and generous. How can you reach the Pure Land if you can not even reach the first heaven closest to Earth? The Buddha taught us that the human realm is superior to escaping the cycle of rebirth and suffering compared to cultivating in a Pure Land for a reason let alone being the only realm for reaching Buddha hood.
If Buddhists are so fast to condemn the teachings of others without looking at themselves asking whether they have escaped suffering and illness then it is perhaps themselves whom have not cultivated enough. If you cannot save yourself, then why should you complain and stop other people from being saved?
I will emphasise again that what the Shakyamuni Buddha taught transcended alot of what was circulated at the time and human civilisation was in its beginning again. He used his empirical observation to show us what we know today. Modern people today will not believe in Gods or ghosts or even the afterlife but however as Buddhists, we do. We believe in such because it may be due to culture, religion or even paranormal experiences but how much of know is the complete truth? We can not answer this because we are human just like the observable universe we see through our telescopes may be as small of 4% of the total universe.
The texts have not been altered in anyway and any combination of mantras revealed by Guan Yin Pu Sa definately will be effective yet the timing of the revelation will definately be a result of the proper timing or karma of our times.
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