01-03-2016, 10:31 AM
(01-03-2016, 09:38 AM)Sir,Actually the CB is not a concern per se but the resolution of the CBs either by way of partial redemption or revised terms will give an indication to the market on whether SinoG has the money to pay off the CBs &/or whether the CBs have enough faith in SinoG\s IPO plans, etc...... The decision on CB is so important for the market to start believing again............ Remember that there has been no communication from the CBs so far since Newman rereport & of course they are not bound to give any communica tion but their decision to extend/participate i n IPO will go a long way in showing their faith/conviction. Cheers!Oldman9 Wrote:(16-02-2016, 01:43 PM)Boon Wrote:(16-02-2016, 11:17 AM)Young Investor Wrote:(16-02-2016, 10:26 AM)Boon Wrote:Hi Mr Boon(15-02-2016, 10:24 PM)crubs Wrote: Hi CY09 and Boon,
Okay, page 9 of the 3Q results announcement says "Non-cash interest costs relating to convertible bonds decreased from RMB67.4m in 9M2014 to and assumed an income position of RMB24.8m in 9M2015"
Wah how does non-interest cost assume an income position ? That means Garden Fresh borrow money still can earn money on interest ?
So according to your method, this is part of their on-going operation la, making money out of borrowing money.
Since you say your method is right, can your method of calculation explain this phenomenon ? and what is the logic behind it ?
Hi crubs,
Please refer to page 118 and 119 of AR2014
Can you explain why there was a need for an adjustment in FY2013.
Interest expense was adjusted from 19.102 m to 88.818m.
Changes in fair value of option derivatives in relation to convertible bonds had been adjusted from zero to 43.638 m.
This is relevant to your question, I believe.
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Please do not ask unnecessary questions. The note in pg 118 already explains why adjustment was made.
The question now is why there was a 'positive' interest income of RMB 187m in 3Q 15.
You have not answered Crubs question on making money out of borrowing money.
Ha-ha!
If SG has the so called skill in "making money out of borrowing money", why don't they apply it in FY2013 ? Do you know what difference would it make?
Wondering why this skill emerged only after the expiry of both CB1 and CB2.
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(28-02-2016, 08:03 PM)Lich Wrote: Based on the result briefing on Friday, we would be having update from Sino Grandness on their convertible bond issue soon.Hi Lich
I dont know why the concern on convertible bond redemption. Worst comes to worst, Cb takes maximum stake of 23.4%.
cheers
Oldman9