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#71
(05-11-2014, 05:02 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: It seems that VB do has quite a number of xiaomi fans Big Grin
Value investors think the same. Big Grin

Why did I buy a xiaomi? Simple, feature wise, I don't need the most high-end and what I need can be covered by xiaomi.

Sony offers water/dust proof features but for the price I pay, you can get three xiaomi phones (based on Sony Z3 Compact). I can replace the phone three times over if there was dust and water.
You can count on the greed of man for the next recession to happen.
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#72
(05-11-2014, 05:57 PM)LionFlyer Wrote:
(05-11-2014, 05:02 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: It seems that VB do has quite a number of xiaomi fans Big Grin
Value investors think the same. Big Grin

Why did I buy a xiaomi? Simple, feature wise, I don't need the most high-end and what I need can be covered by xiaomi.

Sony offers water/dust proof features but for the price I pay, you can get three xiaomi phones (based on Sony Z3 Compact). I can replace the phone three times over if there was dust and water.

Well said. Xiaomi seems really value for money.
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#73
Your personal information in your xiaomi could be residing in a server in Beijing..... Dodgy

Xiaomi Opens Up About Servers After Spying Allegations
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#74
(05-11-2014, 11:36 PM)swakoo Wrote: Your personal information in your xiaomi could be residing in a server in Beijing..... Dodgy

Xiaomi Opens Up About Servers After Spying Allegations

My personal information might already be residing in a server in Washington , and might already duplicated in many of the federal databases. Big Grin

Does it make a difference, between Beijing and Washington? One has no interest on issues beyond its state border, and one is interested on every issues in the globe. Hmm... May be the former is safer...Tongue
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#75
True.

Just have to decide which server to trust more and which jurisdiction has more legal enforcement and transparency:

Beijing, Washington, Cupertino, Seoul or Taipei

Tongue
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#76
A good article on Xioami business model, that worth a read...

Xiaomi's killer app? Its business model

BERLIN (Nov 7): Xiaomi Corp, the private company that sells the most smartphones in China, had been shrouded in mystery: It wasn't clear how it could make money by selling top-of-the-line products at rock-bottom prices. Xiaomi has revealed its 2013 financials, and they show a handsome profit, which means smartphones from Apple, Samsung and even LG and HTC may be grossly overpriced.

Xiaomi's flagship phone, the Mi4, sells for a minimum of US$327. Its specifications are largely the same as, say, the Samsung Galaxy S5, which costs at least US$150 more. The Chinese maker doesn't skimp on component quality to drive down the price: It uses the same Sony battery and optical sensors, Qualcomm processor, Wi-Fi and audio chip, Samsung RAM chip and parts as other premium smartphones.

Xiaomi phones don't look or feel cheap, though their design is minimalistic. The Mi interface, with its highly intuitive, native-feeling and iOS-like Android flavour, is an improvement on Google's version of the operating system and doesn't suffer from the bloatware inflicted on users by other phone manufacturers.

It's a good piece of equipment that reviewers can't fault. It could compete on its own merits, not just on price, so why sell it cheaply?

One possible answer is that Xiaomi sees the phones as just delivery devices for software, which the company also develops.

"We are an Internet and a software company much more than a hardware company," Hugo Barra, Xiaomi's vice president for global operations, said at a recent tech conference.

Barra repeats this disorienting mantra every chance he gets, but the financial data, published in The Wall Street Journal, show it either reflects wishful thinking or plans for a distant future. The company made 94 percent of its US$4.3 billion in revenue from selling mobile phones. Even Apple, where hardware accounts for 90 percent of sales, is more of an "Internet and a software company".

Xiaomi is a late entrant to the market, so it has avoided the hassle of going head-to-head with established players in its price category. Instead, it has chosen to keep down both costs and margins, and to concentrate on the product.

The company is spending very little on conventional marketing. Instead, it provides forums and communicates with users on social networks. In 2013, it only spent 3.2 percent of revenue on sales and marketing. Apple's sales and marketing efforts consume twice as big a share of revenue, which is 40 times greater than Xiaomi's. Samsung's selling and marketing expenses account for 16.3 percent of sales.

Even though it saves on everything except quality parts, Xiaomi still has a gross margin only half as high as Apple's or Samsung's. It did, however, make a net profit of US$566 million last year, 12.8 percent of revenue. That's high: Samsung's net profit last year was 13.3 percent of revenue.
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http://www.theedgemarkets.com/sg/article...ness-model
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#77
(06-11-2014, 10:12 AM)swakoo Wrote: True.

Just have to decide which server to trust more and which jurisdiction has more legal enforcement and transparency:

Beijing, Washington, Cupertino, Seoul or Taipei

Tongue

More like, which one will pay me the most for my "information".

A pity so far it's nobody Tongue
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#78
It is a baby step indeed, base on Xioami sale records...

DJ Xiaomi's Cheap Smartphones Make a Splash in Indonesia

By Resty Woro Yuniar

China's Xiaomi entered Indonesia in September to sell low-cost smartphones to an increasingly mobile-hungry population, and its push into Southeast Asia's largest market is already bearing fruit.

"We've sold over 100,000 Redmi 1S and Redmi Note phones in Indonesia," Hugo Barra, Xiaomi's vice president for global operations, told The Wall Street Journal in an interview. The Redmi 1S is Xiaomi's cheapest phone, selling at 1.5 million rupiah ($122), and the Redmi Note is its popular phone-tablet hybrid, or phablet.

Over the past year the Beijing-based company has also expanded into emerging markets like India, where it has sold more than half a million phones since its first flash sale in July sold out in under 40 minutes. While sales in India have far outpaced those in Indonesia, Barra said he was quite happy considering Xiaomi is taking baby steps to understand the Indonesian market better.
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Source: Dow Jones
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#79
Patent portfolio is an very important competitive edge, for technology stock...

Xiaomi’s India sales ban exposes firm’s patent vulnerability

MUMBAI/BEIJING — The court order that banned Chinese mobile-maker Xiaomi from selling its phones in India has halted its breakneck expansion into the world’s fastest-growing major smartphone market and could be only the start of a string of patent challenges.

Xiaomi Technology started selling in India only in July, but quickly became the country’s fastest-growing smartphone brand. With minimal marketing, it is already outselling even low-cost smartphones running Google’s Android One.

Mr Hugo Barra, the former Google executive now leading its international operations, told Reuters last month how rapidly the country had taken to his brand. All it took was a single Facebook post to draw dozens of superfans to a California Pizza Kitchen in Mumbai to meet him, he said.

“It was far more than we expected. The community has really, really embraced us,” he added.

And then came Wednesday’s court order to stop selling, after a patent infringement case was filed by telecom equipment maker Ericsson. The ban will last until at least Feb 5, when the Delhi court hears the case again.

But that is unlikely to be the end of the young company’s battle over intellectual property (IP) rights.

Sources close to Xiaomi say its leadership has privately acknowledged for years its vulnerability to patent entanglements. The higher risks of IP litigation in Western markets even played a role in shaping its strategy of expanding in India and South-east Asia, the sources said.

Xiaomi said in a statement that “it isn’t easy” to build up a patent portfolio as a start-up company, but it aims to have filed 8,000 applications by 2016.
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http://www.todayonline.com/business/xiao...nerability
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#80
A profit of 347.48 million yuan, over a revenue of approx 26.58 billion yuan, that is a profit margin of 1.3%. It shows the competitiveness of market...

Xiaomi ‘made only S$74m’ in profit last year

Beijing — China’s Xiaomi Technology made a profit of 347.48 million yuan (S$73.6 million) on 26.58 billion yuan in revenue last year, said new Chinese securities filings, showing the razor-thin margins in one of the handset industry’s fastest-growing companies.

The filings also revealed that chairman and chief executive Lei Jun claims 77.8 per cent ownership of the company he co-founded in 2010, while unnamed shareholders split the remaining shares.
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http://www.todayonline.com/tech/gadgets/...-last-year
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