CPF

(19-06-2014, 01:52 AM)flinger Wrote: Sigh, they do provide her assistance with her medical and Public Assistance scheme does provide cash grant along with consumables as far as I know.

There are many many many assistance schemes for different types of people in different situations.

If you so concerned , you should know these things, before writing these half truths.

Please know the full story before just spill nonsense.

I think she didn't want to accept cash and wanted to be independent and thus sold things that she had no use for that she got from the P.A scheme. that's my guess based on what she has said in these articles.

think? sorry cannot think must have proof since you accuse me politizing, source please?

this is a professional site when I make statements people ask me to provide source if not is considered making false accusations.

you must also do likewise

For your info, you never provided any "Proof" to validate that the govt did not give cash for the P.A scheme and she did not receive any medical help from the govt.

But then , what can be expected of people like you who tell half truths and lies and all you do is just spam without any substance.

You want proof that the P.A. schemes gives cash, go look up the P.A. scheme and you will find the details.

You want proof that the govt provide medical help, go look the articles where they clearly highlight that the govt helped settled her medical affairs. Also look up the medical help that the govt provides for such people.

You want me to proof why she made the decision? Sorry, I don't provide "Proof" to ridiculous request of why people make decisions to do what they want to do with their life.

tsk, tsk .

(19-06-2014, 02:13 AM)sgd Wrote:

(19-06-2014, 01:52 AM)flinger Wrote: Sigh, they do provide her assistance with her medical and Public Assistance scheme does provide cash grant along with consumables as far as I know.

There are many many many assistance schemes for different types of people in different situations.

If you so concerned , you should know these things, before writing these half truths.

Please know the full story before just spill nonsense.

I think she didn't want to accept cash and wanted to be independent and thus sold things that she had no use for that she got from the P.A scheme. that's my guess based on what she has said in these articles.

think? sorry cannot think must have proof since you accuse me politizing, source please?

this is a professional site when I make statements people ask me to provide source if not is considered making false accusations.

you must also do likewise

so no proof and no source but a lot of song dance & skipping around.

preserving your reply for posterity.

(19-06-2014, 02:45 AM)flinger Wrote: For your info, you never provided any "Proof" to validate that the govt did not give cash for the P.A scheme and she did not receive any medical help from the govt.

But then , what can be expected of people like you who tell half truths and lies and all you do is just spam without any substance.

You want proof that the P.A. schemes gives cash, go look up the P.A. scheme and you will find the details.

You want proof that the govt provide medical help, go look the articles where they clearly highlight that the govt helped settled her medical affairs. Also look up the medical help that the govt provides for such people.

You want me to proof why she made the decision? Sorry, I don't provide "Proof" to ridiculous request of why people make decisions to do what they want to do with their life.

tsk, tsk .

(19-06-2014, 02:13 AM)sgd Wrote:

(19-06-2014, 01:52 AM)flinger Wrote: Sigh, they do provide her assistance with her medical and Public Assistance scheme does provide cash grant along with consumables as far as I know.

There are many many many assistance schemes for different types of people in different situations.

If you so concerned , you should know these things, before writing these half truths.

Please know the full story before just spill nonsense.

I think she didn't want to accept cash and wanted to be independent and thus sold things that she had no use for that she got from the P.A scheme. that's my guess based on what she has said in these articles.

think? sorry cannot think must have proof since you accuse me politizing, source please?

this is a professional site when I make statements people ask me to provide source if not is considered making false accusations.

you must also do likewise

Don't know how to reply to my "proof" and so you just act as if you didn't read my reply.

heh... so typical of people like you. tsk.. tsk.

(19-06-2014, 02:57 AM)sgd Wrote: so no proof and no source but a lot of song dance & skipping around.

preserving your reply for posterity.

(19-06-2014, 02:45 AM)flinger Wrote: For your info, you never provided any "Proof" to validate that the govt did not give cash for the P.A scheme and she did not receive any medical help from the govt.

But then , what can be expected of people like you who tell half truths and lies and all you do is just spam without any substance.

You want proof that the P.A. schemes gives cash, go look up the P.A. scheme and you will find the details.

You want proof that the govt provide medical help, go look the articles where they clearly highlight that the govt helped settled her medical affairs. Also look up the medical help that the govt provides for such people.

You want me to proof why she made the decision? Sorry, I don't provide "Proof" to ridiculous request of why people make decisions to do what they want to do with their life.

tsk, tsk .

(19-06-2014, 02:13 AM)sgd Wrote:

(19-06-2014, 01:52 AM)flinger Wrote: Sigh, they do provide her assistance with her medical and Public Assistance scheme does provide cash grant along with consumables as far as I know.

There are many many many assistance schemes for different types of people in different situations.

If you so concerned , you should know these things, before writing these half truths.

Please know the full story before just spill nonsense.

I think she didn't want to accept cash and wanted to be independent and thus sold things that she had no use for that she got from the P.A scheme. that's my guess based on what she has said in these articles.

think? sorry cannot think must have proof since you accuse me politizing, source please?

this is a professional site when I make statements people ask me to provide source if not is considered making false accusations.

you must also do likewise

(19-06-2014, 12:25 AM)touzi Wrote:

(18-06-2014, 10:33 PM)egghead Wrote: I also want to borrow the phrase that made Tin Pei Ling famous - "I don't know what to say". Why don't someone ask him to post what he wrote on our Manpower Minister facebook for clarification.

I think we need to know what was the ongoing discussion before he posted those comments. It was quite an abrupt comment. My guess is that he could be saying what goes into CPF consist of interest and employer contribution, and only merely employee contribution.

I do understand your point that we need to see comments in the context of on-going discussion. However, I feel that his comment was totally wrong however we put the context. The minister already made it clear that money in our CPF account is OUR MONEY. Does he mean that when he open an account with banks, the interest he earned from the bank is not his money? Or if he invests in bonds, only the principal is his money and the coupon payments from bond issuer is not his money? I have not heard of such a thing as other people's money in my account except when they are credited by mistake.

(18-06-2014, 11:05 PM)corydorus Wrote: I will add further

C) Our gross pay is 80% and employers are taxed 36%
D) Our gross pay is 116% and we are taxed 36% more

No CPF. But gov implement food stamps, higher housing subsidy and higher medical subsidy EQUALLY for all. ;P

+1 to that! I'd say gross pay 100% with ~+/-40% tax (CPF+original income tax) but with food stamps, higher housing subsidy, much higher medical subsidy and universal retirement insurance coverage.

I believe we got enough in this thread, and egghead got his wish for piggo reply.

I don't see the value to continue, and it is becoming a flaming site.

Thanks for all the contributions, and I do see valuable contributions, which might be enlightening for some on the topic.

I close the thread.

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(19-06-2014, 02:45 AM)flinger Wrote: But then , what can be expected of people like you who tell half truths and lies and all you do is just spam without any substance.

I noticed the statement after closure of the thread. I decided to put up a last moderation log in this thread.

The statement is undesirable, and should be concluded as personal attack.

I am lenient to senior buddies. Please take note. Warning will be issued on next occurrence.

Let focus on post, rather on person.

Regards
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