11-10-2013, 10:45 AM
The Next Big Crash - Are You Prepared?
11-10-2013, 10:49 AM
(11-10-2013, 10:45 AM)freedom Wrote: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-oba...15837.html Yea, but it seems like there's progress being made Quote:The New York Times initially reported that Obama had rejected Republicans' offer of a clean, six-week debt ceiling increase because it didn't address the government shutdown.
11-10-2013, 10:54 AM
(11-10-2013, 10:35 AM)freedom Wrote: People don't feel offended when they are questioned if they have the knowledge. They are more than happy to share their knowledge. Only those thinking they are above everyone, feel offended when they are questioned. They think everyone should just accept their idea without questions. Given that talks are ongoing, I think we should give them time. Everyone seems to expect both sides to come to a deal and I think it makes no sense for them to fail. If there is one thing US politicians are good at, it's looking after themselves. I doubt they will jeopardize their portfolios or those of their backers.
11-10-2013, 11:03 AM
(11-10-2013, 10:54 AM)Clement Wrote:(11-10-2013, 10:35 AM)freedom Wrote: People don't feel offended when they are questioned if they have the knowledge. They are more than happy to share their knowledge. Only those thinking they are above everyone, feel offended when they are questioned. They think everyone should just accept their idea without questions. I will ruled out a prolonged debt default, but I will not ruled out that nothing gets done on 17 October. They might be other issues in calculation besides immediate opinion polls
life goes in cycles, predictable yet uncontrollable; just like the markets, but markets give you a second chance
11-10-2013, 11:10 AM
As said earlier and agreed by Moody's, debt default is a choice, not a mandate.
No matter what happened, debt default is a stupid thing. It's like you have the money, but choose to default. Debt default should never be allowed to happen.
11-10-2013, 11:13 AM
I think they will come to an agreement by this weekend. Obamacare is off the table and therefore both parties are not that far apart.
11-10-2013, 11:17 AM
11-10-2013, 11:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2013, 11:23 AM by AlphaQuant.)
don't forget the superbond!
the debt limit is defined by the face of the bills issued - not by the receipt. one suggestion is for the treasury to issue bills that receive e.g. 250cts on the dollar i/o 100cts - of cos this comes with a higher interest payment so that the pv of these superbills are the same as the traditional par bonds. so same debt limit remains, but the Treasury can then get much more cash than the traditional bill. u have to admire the creativity that comes with a fiat system...
11-10-2013, 11:23 AM
(11-10-2013, 11:17 AM)Jacmar Wrote:(11-10-2013, 11:13 AM)Clement Wrote: I think they will come to an agreement by this weekend. Obamacare is off the table and therefore both parties are not that far apart. Well that is to be expected. I was expecting a more Hollywood like ending where they pass the debt ceiling bill just as the last billion or so leaves their account.
11-10-2013, 11:34 AM
A better explanation about government shutdown and default from Wikipedia.
Quote:Under US law, an administration can spend only if it has sufficient funds to pay for it. These funds can come either from tax receipts or from borrowing by the United States Department of the Treasury. Congress has set a debt ceiling, beyond which the Treasury cannot borrow (this is similar to a credit limit on a credit card). The debt limit does not restrict Congress’s ability to enact spending and revenue legislation that affects the level of debt or otherwise constrains fiscal policy; it restricts Treasury’s authority to borrow to finance the decisions already enacted by Congress and the President. Congress also usually votes on increasing the debt limit after fiscal policy decisions affecting federal borrowing have begun to take effect.[6] In the absence of sufficient revenue, a failure to raise the debt ceiling would result in the administration being unable to fund all the spending which it is required to do by prior acts of Congress. At that point, the government must cancel or delay some spending, a situation sometimes referred to as a partial government shut down. It also helps to answer earlier question about whether US government not paying its obligations other than debt is a default. Apparently, it is called government shutdown. |
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