Stock which u think is good to buy and go long in the next crash

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#11
Hi All

Thanks for all your advise. I am lucky to have found a good paying job even before I graduated from SMU. Thus I would like to put my saving to good use.

Because of the nature of my work, I do not think trading is the way forward for me. Trading required full time, suitable only for those retiree.

I have a long term investment goal , and I will do dollar averaging by buying the STI ETF, it is a good way to invest without now and then looking over our shoulder.
Before that, I have already invested in some unit trust that given me some handsome profit.

STI ETF track the growth of Singapore, unless you believe Singapore will grow.

No one know when the market will crash, or correct till it is all over. We can never catch the bottom, but I hope dollar averaging will do the trick.

I thanks all of you for your precious advice and will continue to read this site for your wonderful and useful contribution.
Sorry to reply so late, as I just came back from my work.

May your investment bring you lot of prosperity.
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#12
> I am lucky to have found a good paying job even before I graduated from SMU

SMU grads are known to strong in financial knowledge. How about starting your own study and post some views here?
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#13
I think the strategy should be to focus-buy on heavily discounted BLUE CHIPS counters ONLY in the next crash,
sure, STI ETF is fine too.

1) SG top 3 Banks
2) 3 telcos, red/orange/green
3) SIA/STE

Take note that during crash or unreasonable low pricing of stocks, there is a HIGH risk of PTE companies going to delist on the cheap! Tongue
1) Try NOT to LOSE money!
2) Do NOT SELL in BEAR, BUY-BUY-BUY! invest in managements/companies that does the same!
3) CASH in hand is KING in BEAR! 
4) In BULL, SELL-SELL-SELL! 
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#14
When I just graduated many many years ago, there was a fund from DBS called eights. I chose the aggressive portfolio D. Every months automatically deduct my salary for dollar averaging.

After 10 years, the return was negative 50%. Since then, no more fund... for super long term investment, you follow mkt up and down.. close your eyes and buy and buy... a few bankrupted companies.. china aoil etc will wipe out all profit...


(26-07-2013, 08:50 PM)yewkim Wrote: Hi All

Thanks for all your advise. I am lucky to have found a good paying job even before I graduated from SMU. Thus I would like to put my saving to good use.

Because of the nature of my work, I do not think trading is the way forward for me. Trading required full time, suitable only for those retiree.

I have a long term investment goal , and I will do dollar averaging by buying the STI ETF, it is a good way to invest without now and then looking over our shoulder.
Before that, I have already invested in some unit trust that given me some handsome profit.

STI ETF track the growth of Singapore, unless you believe Singapore will grow.

No one know when the market will crash, or correct till it is all over. We can never catch the bottom, but I hope dollar averaging will do the trick.

I thanks all of you for your precious advice and will continue to read this site for your wonderful and useful contribution.
Sorry to reply so late, as I just came back from my work.

May your investment bring you lot of prosperity.

When I just graduated many many years ago, there was a fund from DBS called eights. I chose the aggressive portfolio D. Every months automatically deduct my salary for dollar averaging.

After 10 years, the return was negative 50%. Since then, no more fund... for super long term investment, you follow mkt up and down.. close your eyes and buy and buy... a few bankrupted companies.. china aoil etc will wipe out all profit...


(26-07-2013, 08:50 PM)yewkim Wrote: Hi All

Thanks for all your advise. I am lucky to have found a good paying job even before I graduated from SMU. Thus I would like to put my saving to good use.

Because of the nature of my work, I do not think trading is the way forward for me. Trading required full time, suitable only for those retiree.

I have a long term investment goal , and I will do dollar averaging by buying the STI ETF, it is a good way to invest without now and then looking over our shoulder.
Before that, I have already invested in some unit trust that given me some handsome profit.

STI ETF track the growth of Singapore, unless you believe Singapore will grow.

No one know when the market will crash, or correct till it is all over. We can never catch the bottom, but I hope dollar averaging will do the trick.

I thanks all of you for your precious advice and will continue to read this site for your wonderful and useful contribution.
Sorry to reply so late, as I just came back from my work.

May your investment bring you lot of prosperity.
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#15
(26-07-2013, 11:02 AM)Temperament Wrote: When market crashes more than 40% or 50%, any Tom Dick or Harry throws a dart at a dart board printed with 2nd liners to blue chips will, shall make money when Market restores to original index before crashes. Don't believe? Brave enough to try it?
The problem is that before that time all my investable money are in the market already. i will be chickened out long before 40% or 50% if it ever happens again. Even if i want to try it, i can't. My psyche doesn't allow me to do it. Hope you can. In fact i hold back more than 35% to 40 % of my capital at march 2009. The capital was/is in quite safe "assets allotcation". If only i have the psyche to put everything into the 2009 market.
Now if i tell you i have had the psyche and i have had done it 25 or 26 years ago, do you believe me? That was when i first invested at the age of 40.
Any psychologist among us like to explain what happen to my psyche? Has she left me or still with me but changes into a different "she" as i aged, she aged too? Can a person's psyche changes?
i though a leopard can never changes her spots. Or the Chinese:- "Mountain can be changed, your characters hard to move". Pardon me for my poor literal translation of the idiom.
You are what you are even you want to think otherwise. No?

We should give a value of the company share, ask our broker or set alert on the platform to activate buy when it hit the price.

Sir John Templeton method : by placing a buy order well below the market price, it become easier to buy when faced with despondent selling. This is a simple but highly effective way of removing emotion from the situation.

Just my 2cents thinking
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#16
(27-07-2013, 11:07 AM)brattzz Wrote: I think the strategy should be to focus-buy on heavily discounted BLUE CHIPS counters ONLY in the next crash,
sure, STI ETF is fine too.

1) SG top 3 Banks
2) 3 telcos, red/orange/green
3) SIA/STE

Take note that during crash or unreasonable low pricing of stocks, there is a HIGH risk of PTE companies going to delist on the cheap! Tongue
I like to differ on No1.
i think the most "dangerous stocks" to purchase at this time are banks. Though our Local Banks are supposed to be well capitalised. After saying this, base on historical Banks' AR of our 3 local banks seems to be O. K. lah. Even during the 2008/2009/2010 period.
Who knows the next time around. The last round i purchased only 2 OCBC and 1+1/2 DBS. Very kiasu one, isn't it?

(27-07-2013, 11:26 AM)Andrew Q Wrote:
(26-07-2013, 11:02 AM)Temperament Wrote: When market crashes more than 40% or 50%, any Tom Dick or Harry throws a dart at a dart board printed with 2nd liners to blue chips will, shall make money when Market restores to original index before crashes. Don't believe? Brave enough to try it?
The problem is that before that time all my investable money are in the market already. i will be chickened out long before 40% or 50% if it ever happens again. Even if i want to try it, i can't. My psyche doesn't allow me to do it. Hope you can. In fact i hold back more than 35% to 40 % of my capital at march 2009. The capital was/is in quite safe "assets allotcation". If only i have the psyche to put everything into the 2009 market.
Now if i tell you i have had the psyche and i have had done it 25 or 26 years ago, do you believe me? That was when i first invested at the age of 40.
Any psychologist among us like to explain what happen to my psyche? Has she left me or still with me but changes into a different "she" as i aged, she aged too? Can a person's psyche changes?
i though a leopard can never changes her spots. Or the Chinese:- "Mountain can be changed, your characters hard to move". Pardon me for my poor literal translation of the idiom.
You are what you are even you want to think otherwise. No?

We should give a value of the company share, ask our broker or set alert on the platform to activate buy when it hit the price.

Sir John Templeton method : by placing a buy order well below the market price, it become easier to buy when faced with despondent selling. This is a simple but highly effective way of removing emotion from the situation.

Just my 2cents thinking
In theory he did that. In practice i am sure he did more than that. But i am sure we don't have his abilities. We may even press the panic button to sell instead.
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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#17
Maybe ST engineering. Should be really defensive... haha
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#18
(27-07-2013, 05:38 PM)smallcaps Wrote: Maybe ST engineering. Should be really defensive... haha
Yes agree. That's why i think the market "always" prices it that its DY always lower than SAT or SIA Engg. respectively.
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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#19
Who knows what will happen ie. which stock is going to become better value for money... My advice is to ask this question again only when the crash happens... We can then share our analysis on which good stock had dropped a lot more than it's intrinsic value... even then, we'll likely be arguing about the intrinsic value itself and won't be able to agree with each other... haha... Tongue
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#20
Ha! Ha!
Intrinsic value? What intrinsic value?
Can this ship survive this tempest? After the violent storm has passed, will the ships still be around? if this ship most probably will be around, at what stage of the storm shall i board it? Or after the storm has passed and see which ship still afloat then board it? Can i wait so long? i may be afraid the storm has passed and the ship has set sail before i can board it? So i always board too early lol. And ride out the storm with my stomach churning. But i am used to it; therefore i won't vomit too much. i will survive. What don't kill you make you stronger, they say it's true. Try it!
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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