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Bing AI Can't Be Trusted
Microsoft knowingly released a broken product for short-term hype
https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted
Quote:Bing AI got some answers completely wrong during their demo. But no one noticed. Instead, everyone jumped on the Bing hype train.
Google’s Bard got an answer wrong during an ad, which everyone noticed. Now the narrative is “Google is rushing to catch up to Bing and making mistakes!”.
That would be a fine narrative if Bing didn’t make even worse mistakes during its own demo.
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(16-02-2023, 01:36 AM)Wildreamz Wrote: Bing AI Can't Be Trusted
Microsoft knowingly released a broken product for short-term hype
https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted
this is probably the reason why Google did not release their AI earlier?
For some weird reason Microsoft enjoys the benefit of low expectations but people expects perfection from Google.
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16-02-2023, 04:17 PM
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It's rational. Search is inconsequential for Microsoft, but it's Google's lifeblood, the market naturally should judge Google more harshly, as one wrong step, losing this trend might spell the downfall of Google.
But reading into detail, the capabilities of ChatGPT, Bing and LLMs (large language models) in general, one will quickly realize that it poses very little real threat to Google's edge for most core use-cases for Search.
Beyond Search, for certain tasks, it's already quantum leap better for anything else that exist at the moment (say for drafting, copy-writing, self-learning, coding etc). To me, the TAM of LLMs is way beyond Search/Advertising, and limiting your imagination to traditional search market is actually underselling the capabilities of LLMs.
I think the market also completely underlook the potential here for Google. Google is the 800 pound gorilla in AI (see DeepMind, Google TPU, and their entire business model). By lighting a fire under them, they basically accelerated Google's investments and development here by a couple of years, IMHO. Just like how Covid accelerated all of Zoom's competitors' investment into web-conferencing.
Final thoughts on "new Bing", people expect it to be "Google + ChatGPT", reality is, it's "Bing + ChatGPT"; with all the weaknesses of Bing (bloat, clutter, irrelevance, slowness, poor integration with web ecosystem etc.).
Also, do we really need ChatGPT in Search? When making a Google search, I want clarity, not clutter. I want answers, not a conversation. 99% of the time, I don't need ChatGPT.
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When I asked a qn in ChatGPT, it gave me an answer direct to my question. It doesnt give me various links and expect me to sieve thru the best one to see. Even if i clicked on google links, i still hv to search for the ans to my qn.
If i am not satisfied with ChatGPT answer, I will request it to "try again" and it will give me another answer. Straight forward. No time wasting sieving thru links.
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16-02-2023, 05:49 PM
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(16-02-2023, 05:14 PM)Bibi Wrote: When I asked a qn in ChatGPT, it gave me an answer direct to my question. It doesnt give me various links and expect me to sieve thru the best one to see. Even if i clicked on google links, i still hv to search for the ans to my qn.
If i am not satisfied with ChatGPT answer, I will request it to "try again" and it will give me another answer. Straight forward. No time wasting sieving thru links.
Again, depending on your questions and searches.
When most people use Google Search, we search one/few keywords (with as little letters as possible) with some idea in mind what we will get. For example, I search "iPhone" and click on news tab for the latest news and rumor of the latest iPhone. When I want to search the latest news and information about a stock ticker (e.g. "ANET") I type it in, it immediately gives me the stock price (99% of what people are looking for) clicking on the news tab will give the real-time information published.
How does ChatGPT enhance this experience more meaningfully?
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I think it depends on the search query.
Whether it is broad or specific.
If a user is asking a specific question, i think he will appreciate the answer provided by ChatGPT much more.
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Like Munger mentioned yesterday, Chat GPT is not going to cure cancer.
I think google gives me the relevant data (remember Webcrawler? It just gives data) that I need to do some work to sieve through and use my human intelligence to try to find the links. But AI try to present the collated data into intelligible info without our work and present as info and sometimes construed as facts
As usual tech is very good at systematic / onerous / recurring tasks hence very efficient. Effectiveness is up to debate
I think the trend of being fed by tech ie from our consumption patterns, political affiliation etc and auto pilot everything runs contrary to what the internet was originally designed for
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Use cases like this, is where I find where the most opportunity lies. It's up to debate if this overlap with Google (maybe).
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(16-02-2023, 05:59 PM)Elty Wrote: I think it depends on the search query.
Whether it is broad or specific.
If a user is asking a specific question, i think he will appreciate the answer provided by ChatGPT much more.
Not necessarily. For example, if I want to find directions to a postal code, I'm sure Google Maps will do the job better than an LLMs. That's very specific.
But ChatGPT might be better for more complex questions. For example, how safe is the vaccine, what are the potential complications, given my medical conditions (diabetes, high blood pressure etc.). But even then, would you trust it's accuracy completely or would you rather get the information directly from MOH website or a doctor?
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Coming from a software engineer perspective, ChatGPT definitely helps improve productivity a lot when asking questions related to software as compared to using Google. For e.g when i want to have a quick sort algorithm implemented in C, ChatGPT gives me one immediately. Request to change to assemblty language for intel processor, it reproduces that again.
Once, my son had an issue with his Chemistry question and ChatGPT immediately gave an ans. Prior to that i googled for help to his qn and i gave up reading those multiple links.
If one is looking for real-time info, ChatGPT is not the way to go as its trained on past year or few mths ago data.
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